Mrs. Paine.

Perfectly clear. I looked especially for traces of Lee having been up, since I wondered if he might be still sleeping, having overslept.

Mr. Jenner.

Was he in the habit on these weekends of making himself a sandwich which he would take with him?

Mrs. Paine.

No; there is no such habit. Perhaps once Marina prepared something for him to take with him, I think more for him to put in his room, partly for lunch, partly for him to have at his room in town and use the refrigerator.

Mr. Jenner.

But in any event, on the morning of the 22d you saw no evidence of there having been an attempt by anybody to prepare?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Sandwiches for lunch or to take anything else in the way of food from your home?

Mrs. Paine.

I saw no evidence, and I saw nothing that was missing.

Mr. Jenner.

At any time during all the time you knew the Oswalds, up to and including November 22, was any mention ever made of any attempt on the life of Richard Nixon?

Mrs. Paine.

None.

Mr. Jenner.

Just that subject matter, was it ever mentioned?

Mrs. Paine.

Never.

Mr. Jenner.

To the best of your recollection did they ever discuss Richard Nixon as a person?

Mrs. Paine.

I can't recall Richard Nixon coming into the conversation at any time.

Mr. Jenner.

And to the present day--well, I want to include the time that you spoke here a couple weeks ago with Marina, let us say up to and including that day had there ever been any discussion with you by Marina of

the possibility of Lee Oswald contemplating making an attack upon the person of Richard Nixon?

Mrs. Paine.

No; no such discussion.

Mr. Jenner.

Did anyone else ever talk to you about that up to that time, talk to you on that subject?

Mrs. Paine.

Well, after it was rumored in the paper, someone asked me if I thought there was anything to it but that is something else.

Mr. Jenner.

When you say recently some rumor to that effect that is what you are talking about?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

Up to that time?

Mrs. Paine.

Absolutely none.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it from your testimony this morning that you have seen and talked with Robert Oswald but once?

Mrs. Paine.

And you recall also when he came to pick up her things?

Mr. Jenner.

Oh, yes.

Mrs. Paine.

Twice.

Mr. Jenner.

So you saw him once for the first time in the city police station?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

You talked with him on that occasion. You saw him on one occasion when not so long after that he came out to pick up her things?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

And had some conversation with him then. Have there ever been any other occasions that you have had a conversation with him directly or by telephone?

Mrs. Paine.

No. I made one attempt to have such a conversation and drove out to his home in Denton and talked with his wife.

Mr. Jenner.

And what occurred then? When was that?

Mrs. Paine.

Possibly in January.

Mr. Jenner.

Of 1964?

Mrs. Paine.

Right,

Mr. Jenner.

Why did you go out there?

Mrs. Paine.

I had been writing letters to Marina and receiving no reply, and I wanted to go and talk with both Robert and his wife to inquire what was the best way to be a friend to Marina in this situation, whether it was better to