Mr. Specter.

automobile was being driven from the point of assassination to the hospital?

Mr. Kellerman.

I did not.

Mr. Specter.

Did you observe it at any time prior to the time you saw the automobile in the White House garage on or before November 27?

Mr. Kellerman.

I did not, sir.

Mr. Specter.

Did you have any occasion to examine closely the windshield after the time of the shooting up until the time you saw it in the White House garage?

Mr. Kellerman.

No, sir.

Mr. Specter.

Now, at the time of your examination of the windshield in the White House garage, did you feel the windshield?

Mr. Kellerman.

On the day that I visited the White House garage and checked this car over for my own personal reasons, and this windshield crack was pointed out to me, I did--

Mr. Specter.

When you say it was pointed out to you, by whom?

Mr. Kellerman.

There were other people in the garage, Mr. Specter, like Mr. Kinney, I believe was there at the time, Special Agent Henry Rybka was the other person.

Mr. Specter.

Was it sufficiently prominent without having to have it pointed out specially?

Mr. Kellerman.

Oh, yes; very much. And I felt this windshield both inwardly and outwardly to determine first if there was something that was struck from the back of us or--and I was satisfied that it was.

Mr. Specter.

When you say struck from in back of you, do you mean on the inside or outside of the windshield?

Mr. Kellerman.

Inside, sir.

Mr. Specter.

Inside of the car?

Mr. Kellerman.

Right.

Mr. Specter.

Did you have occasion to feel the outside of the windshield?

Mr. Kellerman.

I did on that day; yes, sir.

Mr. Specter.

What did you feel, if anything?

Mr. Kellerman.

Not a thing; it was real smooth.

Mr. Specter.

Did you have occasion to feel the inside of the windshield?

Mr. Kellerman.

I did.

Mr. Specter.

How did that feel to you?

Mr. Kellerman.

My comparison was that the broken glass, broken windshield, there was enough little roughness in there from the cracks and split that I was positive, or it was my belief, that whatever hit it came into the inside of the car.

Mr. Specter.

I move for the admission into evidence of Exhibit No. 350.

Representative Ford.

It will be so admitted.
(The document referred to, heretofore marked Commission Exhibit No. for identification, was received in evidence.)

Mr. Specter.

I now call the attention of the Commission to Exhibit No. 351, which is the windshield itself which, as the Commission may observe, is present in the hearing room. Now, with reference to Exhibit No. 351, which is a marking placed over a glass object, Mr. Kellerman, can you describe for the Commission what that is?

Mr. Kellerman.

Yes; this windshield, which has since been removed from the vehicle, at the time I first viewed it, this area marked in here was all that was cracked. These are later splints.

Mr. Specter.

Before you proceed, Mr. Kellerman, do you have knowledge as to the general removal procedure during which this windshield was taken from the President's car?

Mr. Kellerman.

I believe I do not. However, I believe Mr. Greer would be able to identify it better than I, on the removal side.

Mr. Specter.

Would you describe the condition of the windshield in its present state as we are viewing it here this morning?

Mr. Kellerman.

The windshield this morning has--has been hit by some object with sufficient force

Mr. Specter.

Perhaps we ought to start with the point of impact, Mr. Kellerman. First, are you able to positively identify this as the windshield from the President's automobile?