Mr. Kellerman.

framework that goes over the car. It has four holes in it. These holes are utilized by the President for parades. As an example, say it was used in Washington where you had an official visitor, and in using one of the streets here as your parade route, he and his guest would stand in this car where the people could view them a little better than sitting in the rear seat.

Mr. Specter.

Where is that metal bar positioned with respect to the front seat?

Mr. Kellerman.

It is positioned over the front seat; the top of this bar would be 4 or 5 inches over my, head.

Mr. Specter.

Is it directly over the back portion of the front seat?

Mr. Kellerman.

Yes, sir. Directly over the front seat.

Mr. Specter.

And you describe it as 4 or 5 inches over your head. Can you give us an estimate of the distance above the top of the front seat?

Mr. Kellerman.

Oh, I am guessing in the neighborhood of 15, 18 inches.

Mr. Specter.

What is the width of that metal bar?

Mr. Kellerman.

The bar, 4 to 6 inches, I would say.

Mr. Specter.

Can you tell us approximately how wide the automobile itself is?

Mr. Kellerman.

No; I can't.

Mr. Specter.

With respect to the automobile, are there any running boards?

Mr. Kellerman.

There are no running boards.

Mr. Specter.

Is there any place on the car where someone can stand up and ride as it proceeds in motion?

Mr. Kellerman.

Yes; on the rear of the vehicle, sir.

Mr. Specter.

How many such positions are there?

Mr. Kellerman.

There is a step on each side of the spare tire, one man on each one.

Mr. Specter.

And is there any facility for holding on with a man riding in those positions?

Mr. Kellerman.

Yes, sir; there is a metal arm erected on the trunk where a man can hold on while standing on the rear of the car.

Mr. Specter.

All right.
May it please the Commission, I move that Exhibit 346 be introduced in evidence.

Representative Ford.

It will be so admitted.
(The photograph referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 346 for identification and received in evidence.)

Mr. Specter.

With reference to the bubble top which you have heretofore described, of what is that composed?

Mr. Kellerman.

It is composed of plastic, clear plastic substance. Its use would be for a weather matter whereby the President or his occupants can see out. It is not an enclosed car.

Mr. Specter.

Is it bulletproof?

Mr. Kellerman.

It is not bulletproof.

Mr. Specter.

Is it bullet resistant in any way?

Mr. Kellerman.

It's not bullet resistant.

Mr. Specter.

Could you describe in a general way at this point what efforts. if any, have been made to obtain a bulletproof clear top for the President's automobile?

Mr. Kellerman.

Presently?

Mr. Specter.

Presently or heretofore.

Mr. Kellerman.

I am going to have to go in the present day.

Mr. Specter.

Fine.

Mr. Kellerman.

This same vehicle, I understand, is being completed with a bullet-resistant top and sides.

Representative Ford.

Can you explain the difference between bullet resistant and the existing kind of the top?

Mr. Kellerman.

I can't; I really can't. I have been behind on this thing and I am at a loss for a better answer.

Representative Ford.

Could the present top deflect in any way, destroy the accuracy of a shot?

Mr. Kellerman.

This would be a guess, Mr. Congressman. I would think