Mrs. Paine.

No; she continued to ask me not to mention that. We did, however, meet someone in the Russian emigré group in Fort Worth after she had the first day put on maternity clothes--and so she was sorry that that meeting had occurred. She judged now people would know.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Did anything else occur in the way of discussions during that 15-day period on the subject of life in Russia, his political philosophy, how they got along, his general disposition. her reaction to America?

Mrs. Paine.

She discussed her reaction to America. She was very impressed with the variety of goods available in the stores. She thought the quality was better here than in Russia. Then there was more of that later in October.

Mr. Jenner.

I will get to that, in October. Have we pretty well exhausted this 15-day interim period, then?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes, sir.

Representative Ford.

Mr. Jenner, may I ask a question there? During this 15-day period, did any individual, male or female, come and visit you at your home?

Mrs. Paine.

You mean particularly to see her? I am sure there are people coming and going at my house. There must have been. For instance, May 1, Mary--this is again Miss Mary referred to previously, a babysitter, "8:15. War and Peace." Mary came and stayed with my children, and Marina and June and I went to see War and Peace. Miss Mary recalls that meeting.

Mr. Jenner.

Is that a play or the movie?

Mrs. Paine.

This is the movie, War and Peace, in English. But, of course, she knew the story, so she could enjoy seeing it. "Ed tennis confirm." I went over to play tennis. On the fourth of May, Craig's children--they came here.

Representative Ford.

Into your home?

Mrs. Paine.

Probably.

Mr. Jenner.

Who is Craig?

Mrs. Paine.

Craig is this young German woman who didn't want to buy guns for her children either, that I mentioned. And we exchanged children often.

Mr. Jenner.

Does she speak Russian?

Mrs. Paine.

No; German only, and English. And, mow the lawn, it says on the third, but that is not me, it is a neighbor who mows the lawn. And May 9 in the morning, "Ilse"--means Mrs. Craig again--kept my children while I went at 8:10 to Saint Marks for an interview. So there was a normal flow. And I told my immediate neighbor, Mrs. Roberts, who figures later, that Marina was there over the weekend, that I wouldn't be there, and introduced them, so Marina could go to Mrs. Roberts and make signs or symbols if she had to get a message through to someone.

Mr. Jenner.

Mrs. Roberts is your next door neighbor?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

Then your response to Representative Ford's question is that.

Mrs. Paine.

A normal flow to my house.

Mr. Jenner.

But there wasn't anybody that came specifically to see her from the Russian emigre group, is that correct?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Representative Ford.

Were there any telephone calls to her from anybody of this group, or any other group?

Mrs. Paine.

No. I made the contact for her with my tutor, got her to call. But that is all.

Mr. Dulles.

She probably could not operate the telephone.

Mrs. Paine.

She could. That was the first I knew. I wasn't certain. But she knew how to operate the telephone.

Mr. Jenner.

I am pleased you raised that, sir.
She could dial. Did you have the dial system in effect at that time?

Mrs. Paine.

Way out in Irving; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And she could dial the number if she wished?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; she knew how to do that.

Mr. Mccloy.

Did you at any time get any evidence to indicate that she was in touch with any Soviet officials at all, the consul general? Did she ever talk of going to the Soviet Embassy or the Soviet Consulate in regard to her problems?

Mrs. Paine.

No. The only thing ever mentioned was this that I have already