Mr. Jenner.

Now, was the April 2d occasion the second time that you had seen Lee?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Oswald? You had not seen him in the interim?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

When next did you see him?

Mrs. Paine.

I next saw him on the 20th of April at a picnic at a park near where they lived on Neely Street.

Mr. Jenner.

In between certainly the 2d of April and, possibly, in that period from the 8th, 9th, 10th and 11th, let us take that period up, until the time of the 20th, did you see Marina Oswald in between?

Mrs. Paine.

Did you say between the

Mr. Jenner.

Between the 8th and 10th through the 20th.

Mrs. Paine.

I guess not; between the 11th or so and the 20th.

Mr. Jenner.

Is that your best recollection?

Mrs. Paine.

So far as I know, no.

Mr. Jenner.

How did you communicate with her about the picnic?

Mrs. Paine.

Probably by letter.

Mr. Jenner.

By a letter. Do you have that letter?

Mrs. Paine.

I have--I don't know if I have it. I have a letter that closes "October 20th" in my hand, a scratch note.

Mr. Jenner.

Could I look at that correspondence this evening?

Mrs. Paine.

At the same time.

Mr. Jenner.

Thank you.
Then the next occasion was when you had the picnic on the 20th, is that right?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

I notice in that entry what looks to me like "Miss Mary 7:15." What is the significance of that?

Mrs. Paine.

That is probably going out in the evening. It had no relationship with the picnic at all. It has a relationship with a dinner group which is at the time, you see the 'line "dinner group--7:15 Miss Mary," who is a babysitter.

Mr. Jenner.

That entry has nothing to do with the Oswalds?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Without elaborating, please, Mrs. Paine, what would the subjects of discussion between you and Marina and Mr. Oswald have been at the picnic?

Mrs. Paine.

At the picnic?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Paine.

He spent most of his time fishing. We saw almost nothing of him and heard virtually nothing from him. I was impressed with his unwillingness to be sociable really in this situation. He came to eat when it was time to, and complained about the food.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he complain about the food?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Was your husband present at this picnic?

Mrs. Paine.

No; he was not.

Mr. Dulles.

Did you supply the food?

Mrs. Paine.

No; Marina had cooked it. He complained about it. He caught a fish, as I recall, and took it home to be cleaned. I hardly know who would clean it.

Representative Ford.

Who did clean it?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't know. I left about that time.

Mr. Jenner.

What discussion occurred between you and Lee Oswald, if any, with respect to his life in Russia on that occasion?

Mrs. Paine.

None.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you have any conversation with him other than some pleasantries?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't believe so. I can't even think of the pleasantry.

Mr. Dulles.

As I understand it, as you were sitting there, the picnic took place in the park-----