Mrs. Paine.

I can only guess from the calendar, that is all.

Mr. Jenner.

Other than that entry you have no recollection whatsoever?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Dulles.

If you had seen her would it have been at her house, at her apartment?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't even know that.

Mr. Dulles.

Wouldn't you have remembered four trips back and forth?

Mrs. Paine.

I remember that I made such trills, but which day it is, it is very difficult to know.

Mr. Dulles.

I see. But you think--have you had a recollection about seeing her at this time, without pinpointing it?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there any discussion between you and Marina on the subject of the General Walker incident?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

None whatsoever?

Mrs. Paine.

I am trying to recall now when she first told me that Lee was out of work. The next note I have of having seen them, and you must understand this calendar by no means tells everything I have done or would even be accurate about what I have done on account of what has happened, but at some point she told me that he was out of work.

Mr. Jenner.

Was it some point near the time we are now discussing?

Mrs. Paine.

Near the time we are now discussing. I am trying to get some content in order to answer the question of what happened, did I see her, what happened. The next date I have down for seeing her is a picnic on the 20th of April.

Mr. Jenner.

Had she told you-

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall it having been that long, but it probably was, between the 11th and the picnic. It was before the picnic she told that he was out of work and had been for a few days before he told her.
Now, you probably know when he was out of work, but I don't, when he lost his job. So I am judging that possibly this was mentioned on the 11th that he was out of work, because we did plan to have a picnic on the 20th which included Lee, but it could have been even that day that she told me that he was out of work and had been for some- time.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there any day on or about this time, the 10th or 11th or 12th, within those 3 days, that you saw Marina, where your attention was arrested by her being upset or disturbed?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

In any fashion?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, I notice in your calendar and entry April 16. "St. Marks open again 12 noon." Is that the school your children attend?

Mrs. Paine.

No, they are both preschool age. It must have been an Easter--my children are preschool age.

Mr. Jenner.

What was the occasion of your making that entry?

Mrs. Paine.

I probably wanted to visit the class.

Mrs. Jenner.

What class?

Mrs. Paine.

A language class. This is a school at which I subsequently taught. Last summer I taught at St. Marks School.

Mr. Jenner.

You were visiting the class in advance of your teaching?

Mrs. Paine.

So I probably wanted to visit--no, just any language class there, and inquired, I judge, you see, you will find on Good Friday no school, too, the 12th. So I was marking when the Easter vacation was for St. Marks in order to make plans sometime later to go and visit.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Would you return to April 2, that dinner. Is that entry "dinner at 8"? I couldn't quite figure out

Mrs. Paine.

I believe that is the 7.

Mr. Jenner.

Seven. Was anything said that night about Lee Oswald's work?

Mrs. Paine.

No; nothing.

Mr. Jenner.

About his job?

Mrs. Paine.

Well, I asked him how could I reach them if I had to call off a