Mrs. Paine.

is a person that must have thought things out for himself, a very individualistic person, not a follower of the masses, and he wanted to hear what the ideology was that led Lee to this step.
Michael has told me that he very soon felt that there wasn't much ideology or thought, foundation. That Michael had thought he might be able to learn from this man something and find at least good thinking going on or inquiry, but he Didn't find it. He rather found very rigid adherence to a few Principles such as the principle of the capitalist exploiting the worker, and that this was a great moral failing of the capitalistic society. Michael's own feeling was that Lee's view of morality was very different from Michael's.

Mr. Jenner.

In what respect, Mrs. Paine?

Mrs. Paine.

Michael recalls having--now, this is later. This is not that evening. Did you expect it was? This is answering your question of Michael's impression of Lee.

Mr. Jenner.

I wanted his initial impression.

Mrs. Paine.

All initial impressions. Well, I have passed that. I have gone considerably past it, in fact.

Mr. Jenner.

I see. How many times had you seen Marina up to this moment, that is, up to April 2?

Mrs. Paine.

It was two or three times besides the initial party in February.

Mr. Jenner.

And your best recollection is that this was a nice, pleasant evening, and that was about all?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did your husband take the Oswald's home that evening?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

This is the second. When was the next occasion that you had contact with either of the Oswalds?

Mrs. Paine.

There is a notation of the eighth of April. I am looking on my calendar,. I have no other way of knowing, and one also on the tenth which has an arrow going to the eleventh.

Mr. Jenner.

I would like to ask you a little bit about that before you go into it. Would you describe for the Commission now the condition, the physical condition, of your calendar there?

Mrs. Paine.

Physical?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes. There is a square, and in the square there is written something.

Mrs. Paine.

"Marina" is written this time in Russian. I am improving, it seems.

Mr. Jenner.

In Russian. It is in the square dated April 10.

Mrs. Paine.

I am talking now about the square on April 8. There is a notation "Marina".

Mr. Jenner.

Is that all there is in that square?

Mrs. Paine.

That is all that is in that square.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Paine.

Then the only thing that appears in the square for April 10 is the name "Marina" in Russian, and an arrow pointing, an arrow from it pointing, to April 11.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, go back, if you will to April 8.

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Does that refresh your recollection or stimulate you as to whether you had any contact with Marina on that day or whether it was prearranged and what the occasion was?

Mrs. Paine.

Certainly, it says that there had been an arrangement to get together. Whether we did I don't know.

Mr. Jenner.

I thought you had read everything that appeared in that square. Is there more than just the word "Marina" in the square?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

That is my recollection. But that refreshes your recollection in turning that, that was a prearranged meeting?

Mrs. Paine.

Well, all of these were, since there was no way over the telephone.