Mr. Jenner.

Mr. Chairman, I offer in evidence as Exhibit No. 401 the document that has been given that exhibit number.

Mr. Mccloy.

It may be admitted.
(The document heretofore marked for identification as Commission Exhibit No. 401, was received in evidence.)

Representative Ford.

What time of day was this visit, Mrs. Paine?

Mrs. Paine.

It was midmorning, up to lunchtime. She had hoped I could stay through lunch but I wanted to get back so my children could have naps.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there anybody at home to care for your children when you made this visit?

Mrs. Paine.

I took them.

Mr. Jenner.

Oh, you took them.

Mrs. Paine.

Therefore, I wanted to get them home to take naps.

Mr. Jenner.

What is the driving time from your home in Irving--

Mrs. Paine.

Thirty-five to forty minutes.

Mr. Jenner.

To the Neely Street address of the Oswalds?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it--or was Mr. Oswald home?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Just Marina? And that visit--tell us about that visit, please.

Mrs. Paine.

I fear my recollection may meld one or two visits that occurred in March.

Mr. Jenner.

It might be a good idea, then,--go ahead and tell us about them in a melded form.

Mrs. Paine.

All right. I recall we walked out to a nearby park.

Mr. Dulles.

In both cases?

Mrs. Paine.

I am not sure.

Mr. Dulles.

You think so?

Mrs. Paine.

Anyway, I recall walking to the park, and I think this was the first visit, and we sat and talked. It was warm weather, March, in Dallas. And the children played on the park equipment, and we talked, and she told me that she was expecting a baby, and asked me not to talk about it among the Russian community.

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me. Had anything been said on that subject when you first met Marina Oswald the night of February 22?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Nothing? This was your first notice of that?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And she told you not--would you repeat that, please?

Mrs. Paine.

She told me that she was expecting a child.

Mr. Jenner.

She told you not to do what?

Mrs. Paine.

Not to tell members of the Russian-speaking community in Dallas. She preferred for it not to be publicly known, so to speak.

Mr. Jenner.

Were you in contact with the Russian-speaking community in Dallas?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you say that to her on that occasion?

Mrs. Paine.

Well, it is a contact I could have had. It was reasonable for her to assume I might be.

Mr. Jenner.

But you said nothing in response to that. Did you reassure her?

Mrs. Paine.

I just said I wouldn't talk about it, that it was up to her to make such an announcement when she felt like it.

Mr. Mccloy.

May I ask a question at this point?
You said Lee Oswald was not there. A little earlier in your testimony you said you hoped he would not be there.

Mrs. Paine.

That is correct.

Mr. Mccloy.

Why did you say that? Was it because you took any dislike to his being there or was it merely because you wanted exclusive contact with Marina, or both?

Mrs. Paine.

I certainly wanted to make the contact with Marina. She had not appeared as a person at all at the party. I couldn't tell what sort of person