Mrs. Paine.

It must have started something after 8 o'clock and went until towards midnight.

Mr. Jenner.

You have an interest in square dancing and that sort of thing also. Did you do any of that then?

Mrs. Paine.

No. We talked and ate.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you do any madrigal singing?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

No singing that evening?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Now before I get to any specificity with respect to Marina and Lee Oswald, was Russian spoken that night by anybody?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you speak Russian?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Who else at the party had some facility with Russian in addition to Lee Oswald and Marina Oswald?

Mrs. Paine.

Just the De Mohrenschildts, both of them, and myself.

Mr. Jenner.

And yourself. Did you mention that Mr. Glover had some interest in the Russian language?

Mrs. Paine.

No, I don't believe he does.

Mr. Jenner.

He did not, all right. Were the Oswalds really the center of attention that evening?

Mrs. Paine.

I think so, yes, although you can't say that there was a single center for the entire evening. It wasn't like being invited to hear what he had to say. It was much more informal than that.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you speak with Marina?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes, I did.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you converse with her during the course of the evening?

Mrs. Paine.

Very briefly. She spent the first part of the evening trying to get June to go to sleep.

Mr. Jenner.

June is her daughter?

Mrs. Paine.

The little girl with her.

Mr. Jenner.

She brought her daughter with her did she?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes, and then we talked some in the kitchen with Mrs. De Mohrenschildt, Marina and I.

Mr. Jenner.

And what subject did you ladies pursue?

Mrs. Paine.

I really can't remember. The actual conversation with Marina didn't cover much time at all. I saw very little of her that evening.

Mr. Jenner.

That evening?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

Can you remember any subject you talked to her about in the kitchen?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

What subjects were discussed, I assume in the living room where everybody was gathered? Do you recall what was being pursued there in the way of conversation.

Mrs. Paine.

Part of the time Lee talked with people who were asking him about his trip to Russia. I believe Everett had told me that he had been, so I knew that when I arrived. And the fact that he had gone intending to become a citizen in the Soviet Union. He talked freely and with considerable interest in his subject to the three or four people around him.

Mr. Jenner.

Were you gathered in that group?

Mrs. Paine.

Part of the time at least I was listening to that. He spoke of the things about the Soviet Union that had displeased him, as for instance the censorship. He knew that it had been going on regarding his letters.

Mr. Jenner.

Mrs. Paine, when you talk in terms of conclusion, we have a little trouble testifying. If you will give us examples such as you just gave us about censorship, could we go back a moment to the conversation about his going to Russia. During the course of that subject, in questions put to him, was anything he listed as to why he went to Russia? May I have a yes or no first? Do you recall anything like that?