Mr. Jenner.

At some later stage we will go into what occurred. In the. meantime we have you now in Irving, Tex. Is that a suburb of Dallas?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

You and your husband purchased the home you have there before you went down.

Mrs. Paine.

Oh, no; we stayed at a small apartment for several weeks looking around and then rented for a year, and then we purchased the house we have been renting.

Mr. Jenner.

So you purchased that and moved in in 1960, is that about right?

Mrs. Paine.

We first moved into it in the fall of '59.

Mr. Jenner.

You rented it and then purchased it.

Mrs. Paine.

The same house; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

All right, thank you. You have two children?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

A boy and a girl?

Mrs. Paine.

A girl and a boy.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you name the oldest of the two.

Mrs. Paine.

Sylvia Lynn and the boy--she is now 4. The boy is Christopher and he is 3.

Mr. Jenner.

The point I was getting at, your daughter, Sylvia, was born after you reached Texas?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And what was her birth?

Mrs. Paine.

She was born on November 17, '59.

Mr. Jenner.

1959. Now you are acquainted, became acquainted with Marina Oswald, did you not, in due course in Irving, Tex.?

Mrs. Paine.

No. I first met her and her husband at a gathering of people in Dallas at the home of Everett Glover.

Mr. Jenner.

I will get to that in a moment.

Mrs. Paine.

Okay. I had not met her before that.

Mr. Jenner.

At this time you and your husband were living in your present home in Irving, Tex.?

Mrs. Paine.

In '59.

Mr. Jenner.

At the time that you met Marina Oswald?

Mrs. Paine.

No. Michael moved to an apartment in September of 1962.

Mr. Jenner.

There had been some strained relations or difficulties between yourself and your husband Michael. When we shake our heads we don't get it on the record.
The answer to that is "Yes"?

Mrs. Paine.

Is "No." I had not met her when there had been some strained relations between me and my husband. It is just we are having difficulties with words.

Mr. Jenner.

What I was getting at--there had been some strained relations, is that correct?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And Mr. Paine had moved to separate quarters. This was in September of 1962, correct.

Mrs. Paine.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

You met Marina for the first time when.

Mrs. Paine.

I judge it was the last of February, towards the end of February of 1963.

Mr. Jenner.

You were then living with your children in your home at 2515.

Mrs. Paine.

West Fifth.

Mr. Jenner.

West Fifth Street in Irving, Tex. Now would you please relate the circumstances under which the meeting between yourself and Marina Oswald first occurred in February of 1963.

Mrs. Paine.

I was invited to come to the home of Everett Glover to meet a few friends of his, and I Judge that was on the 22d of February looking back at my calendar.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you please tell us who Mr. Everett Clover was and how you became acquainted with him.
What was the milieu?