Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember what particular issue it was?

Mr. Paine.

No, I didn't notice.

Mr. Liebeler.

Can you set the date of this discussion that you had with Oswald?

Mr. Paine.

That was fairly soon after his coming back. So let's say the middle of October.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he discuss with you, your ability or inability to determine what they wanted you to do by reading between the lines after you had read the publication?

Mr. Paine.

No, I just handed it back to him.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was there anything else said between you at that time on that subject?

Mr. Paine.

He asked me how did I like it.

Mr. Liebeler.

What did you say?

Mr. Paine.

And I tried to be polite. I said it was awful extreme, I thought.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he respond to that?

Mr. Paine.

I think that was the end of it.

Mr. Dulles.

Do I understand that this was, this Daily Worker was, mailed--

Mr. Paine.

To 515.

Mr. Dulles.

To your address in Irving?

Mr. Paine.

That is right. Or Ruth's address.

Mr. Dulles.

It wasn't readdressed but it was directly sent?

Mr. Paine.

That is correct.

Mr. Dulles.

He gave your address for The Worker to come to?

Mr. Paine.

That is right.

Representative Ford.

What prompted him to hand you The Worker? Was there any preface to the actual handing of it to you?

Mr. Paine.

Yes. I think I was asking him, I would like to, I wanted to see some literature or what he liked to read or something like that. I think it was as a response to some question or inquiry of mine.

Mr. Dulles.

Do you know whether this was addressed to him in care of you or Ruth Paine or was it just sent at the Paine address?

Mr. Paine.

I don't remember for certain. I would think it would have just been Oswald at that address but I don't remember. It may have been. There were enough of those packages but I just don't remember.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you draw any inference at the time as a result of this conversation with Oswald about his statement that you could tell what they wanted you to do by reading between the lines?

Mr. Paine.

Well, it made me realize that he would like to be active in some kind of--activist. It made me also feel that he wasn't very well connected with a group or he wouldn't have such a tenuous way of communication, and I thought it was rather childish to someone like Dick Tracy, attract a child to Dick Tracy, to think that that was his bona fide way of being communicated or being a member of this Communist cause or something.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever have any other discussions with him about literature that he received?

Mr. Paine.

I didn't know. Other literature, I was somewhat interested in what the Russian publications were saying but I didn't take it up with him. I wanted Ruth to translate those.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever observe any Cuban literature?

Mr. Paine.

No, I didn't.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever' know that he ever received any such literature?

Mr. Paine.

No, I never, until after the assassination, I had never thought of Cuba either in connection with Oswald or in connection with the Communists or the Communist Party.

Mr. Liebeler.

I show you Commission Exhibit 128 which is ENCO Map of the Dallas-Fort Worth area, and ask you if you recognize that map.

Mr. Paine.

This is the kind of map that 1 always used, stopping in stations when I am out of one so I always have one in my car, and when the FBI showed me this particular map, which I trust is the same one I looked at before.