Mr. Ford.

Not a formal party, just a group of people happened to show up and we started another party.

Mr. Liebeler.

Who was there?

Mr. Ford.

Mr. and Mrs. Sullivan, friends of ours from New Orleans, and Mr. and Mrs. Harris who were from Georgetown, Tex., and another Mr. and Mrs. Ray, not the ones who live in Dallas, but these live in Paris, Tex.

Mr. Liebeler.

Would that be Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Ray?

Mr. Ford.

Thomas Ray.

Mr. Liebeler.

Thomas Ray. And yourself and your wife?

Mr. Ford.

Right.

Mr. Liebeler.

Anybody else?

Mr. Ford.

Right now I can't remember anybody else who came in. It was not a formal gathering, just people happened to stop in and we started having a party.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you have any recollection of any discussion of Oswald at that time?

Mr. Ford.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember at any time having any discussion with any of your Russian friends on the question of whether or not Oswald was a Russian agent?

Mr. Ford.

Prior to the assassination?

Mr. Liebeler.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ford.

No; I don't remember prior to the assassination. There may have been some but I don't remember any.

Mr. Liebeler.

At the party at your home on the 28th of December, did you have any conversation with Oswald?

Mr. Ford.

Said "hello, how are you," to he and Marina, and after that, I can't remember Oswald talking to anybody there except one guest, a Japanese girl. Yaeko, I forget her last name; my wife will remember.
As nearly as I can remember she was the only person in the whole party that he ever bothered to talk to.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember whether Oswald was drinking that evening?

Mr. Ford.

I fixed one drink for him, in a little liqueur glass full of liqueur. As far as I remember he never touched it.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever observe Oswald smoking?

Mr. Ford.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

And you don't remember any discussion about Oswald after he left that evening?

Mr. Ford.

No; after he left that evening, I don't recall any discussion of him.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever have any conversations with De Mohrenschildt about Oswald?

Mr. Ford.

I don.'t remember any specific conversations with George De Mohrenschildt. I may have.

Mr. Liebeler.

What was your impression of Oswald at this time as far as his relations with the other members of the Russian community were concerned, and generally?

Mr. Ford.

My impression was that he didn't want his wife to associate with them, and that he resented any aid or help people tried to give either he or his wife. I might say, I know, I have heard other Russian people there, for example, would take Marina to a grocery store and buy a load of groceries for her and take her back, and one girl that went by and found the baby had a fever and nobody was taking it to the hospital and she took Marina and the baby to the hospital for some medical treatment for it, and I had the impression that Lee Oswald resented this.

Mr. Liebeler.

You gained that impression from conversations that you had?

Mr. Ford.

From conversations with other people, yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Is there any--

Mr. Ford.

I was also going to say--

Mr. Liebeler.

Pardon me.

Mr. Ford.

I think during the period of 1962 that George Bouhe, for example, thought it would be helpful for Marina to learn English and he tried to encourage