Mrs. Ford.

perform your duty, you have to go the meetings and be sort of a leader in the community or in school or take on their work so if you don't do that, I think they just consider you not being a good young Komsomol. They wouldn't keep you there.

Representative Ford.

Did Marina ever tell you that she did or didn't join the Communist Party in the Soviet Union?

Mrs. Ford.

She couldn't join it.

Representative Ford.

Why couldn't she join it?

Mrs. Ford.

Well, not from my own experience but from what I know about it, I think you have to be over 20 years and you have to be 5 years, you have a 5-year waiting period until they check your background and see if you are good enough person to get by their standards to join the Party.

Representative Ford.

Did Marina ever discuss with you any schools or training programs that Lee participated in while he was in the Soviet Union?

Mrs. Ford.

No; she never has said anything of that sort. I think she said one time that they wanted to send him to a school which would give him a profession but it had nothing to do with military or anything like that but somehow he didn't go there. But I have forgotten what he had to be so he was just working regular labor in the factory.

Representative Ford.

You don't recall anything, any details?

Mrs. Ford.

I don't recall any details of the school.

Representative Ford.

You don't recall any of the details of the kind of school?

Mrs. Ford.

Yes; but it was some sort of a civilian, it had nothing to do with military or espionage or anything like that that I remember.

Representative Ford.

At the time that Marina and June stayed with you and your husband in October or November of 1962, did Lee Oswald visit her at your home?

Mrs. Ford.

No. He did not.

Representative Ford.

He called her?

Mrs. Ford.

He called on the telephone.

Representative Ford.

Did anyone else visit her while she was staying at your home on this occasion?

Mrs. Ford.

On this occasion, I think the only person who visited was Anna Ray to whom she was to go later after she stayed with me.

Representative Ford.

Excuse me, I didn't hear you.

Mrs. Ford.

Anna Ray, that is another Russian-born person to whom Marina would go from my house, she came to visit her.

Representative Ford.

The individual who kept Marina after she left you?

Mrs. Ford.

That is right, that is correct.

Representative Ford.

And his name was what?

Mrs. Ford.

Her name.

Representative Ford.

What is the name?

Mrs. Ford.

Anna Ray.

Representative Ford.

That is the only person who visited Marina during this period?

Mrs. Ford.

At my house; yes.

Representative Ford.

I would like to clarify the time and the circumstances of this discussion you had with Marina about the Nixon affair.

Mrs. Ford.

Yes.

Representative Ford.

You had gone to Mr. McKenzie's office with Marina?

Mrs. Ford.

That is right. I had gone translating for her; yes.

Representative Ford.

You were in Mr. McKenzie's office?

Mrs. Ford.

Yes.

Representative Ford.

With Marina. Who else was there?

Mrs. Ford.

And at that time she had a date with the FBI, and we were doing, I was translating some legal work for her about dismissing her old attorney and manager and the FBI called me to come later after we finished with that, and they told Marina why they wanted to talk with her, and McKenzie took us in that other office and he asked Marina about that, and told her that that is what she had to talk about, and she was really angry. She said the thought Robert had said, I mean she did not tell anybody about it, and she didn't