Mr. Mcwatters.

Senator COOPER. Yes. The man to whom you have just referred as getting on the bus near Murphy Street.

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes.
Senator COOPER. Is he the same man who told you that the President had been shot in the temple?

Mr. Mcwatters.

No, sir.
Senator COOPER. Who told you that?

Mr. Mcwatters.

A man in an automobile in front of me, in other words, that was sitting in a car come back and told me.
Senator COOPER. Told you what?

Mr. Mcwatters.

That the President had been shot, that he had heard over his radio in his car that the President had been shot.
Senator COOPER. I think you have testified that someone, some passenger on the bus, in response to a question that you had asked, "I wonder where they shot the President" said, "They shot him in the temple."

Mr. Mcwatters.

Oh, that was now, that was after we had done, that is when I turned on Houston Street, the conversation with the teenage boy.
Senator COOPER. It was the teenage boy who told you that?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes, sir; it was the teenage boy, sitting on his right side of the side seat there, the one that I conversationed with about the President being shot in the head or the temple, I don't remember, but the teenage boy was the one.
That was after the man that already got off that had boarded my bus up around Griffin there.
Senator COOPER. Then the one who told you the President had been shot in the temple was not the one you later identified in the police lineup?

Mr. Mcwatters.

No, sir.
Senator COOPER. This probably has been testified to, but where did the man that you later identified in the police lineup get off the bus?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Got off between Poydras and Lamar Street.
Senator COOPER. Was that after you crossed over the viaduct or before?

Mr. Mcwatters.

No, sir; that was before I crossed over.
Senator COOPER. When did the teenage boy get off the bus?

Mr. Mcwatters.

He got off at Oak Cliff, I believe. He got off at Marsalis and Brownley.
Senator COOPER. Was that after the bus had crossed the viaduct?

Mr. Mcwatters.

That is after the bus had--
Senator COOPER. Past the Texas Depository?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes, sir; that is about 3 or 4 miles out in the Oak Cliff section where the teenage boy got off of the bus.
Senator COOPER. From the time the man got on the bus, which you later identified in the police lineup until he got off, had you noticed him, had you looked at him again?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Had I looked at him again?
Senator COOPER. Yes.

Mr. Mcwatters.

Not until just like I say he was sitting--I was talking to this teenage boy and he was sitting right behind this boy, but I didn't pay him any particular attention, to the man.
Senator COOPER. You saw him get on the bus?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes.
Senator COOPER. Did you see him get off?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Yes; I gave him a transfer when he got off the bus, the same place that was, the same place I was stopped where the man come back and stepped up in the bus and told me what he had heard over his radio in his car, the same place that the lady got off, with a suitcase, is the place that the man got off.
Senator COOPER. The man you later identified in the police lineup?

Mr. Mcwatters.

That is correct; yes, sir.
Senator COOPER. Did you pay any particular attention to him when he got off?

Mr. Mcwatters.

Not no more than I did than, I think, when he got on.
Senator COOPER. Do you remember anything about his clothes or his general appearance in any way?