Mr. Frazier.

a while ago he asked me--we were talking about the clutch and automatic transmission and so forth.

Mr. Ball.

There is a bus service between Dallas and Irving?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes; there is.

Mr. Ball.

Can you get the bus anywhere near the Texas School Book Depository?

Mr. Frazier.

To be frank with you I will say I have never ridden the bus from Irving over there, but I assume you can get off there just like any other bus at any street corner you want to.

Mr. Ball.

Do you know what the fare is?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; I don't.

Mr. Ball.

Is there a toil charge to call from Dallas to Irving?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; it is not.

Mr. Ball.

For 10 cents you can call there, can you?

Mr. Frazier.

Well, I say just for your regular telephone bill, you just pick it up and call.

Mr. Ball.

I see.
Now, there was the one date that Oswald came to you and asked you to drive him back to Irving, it was not a Friday, was it?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; it wasn't.

Mr. Ball.

It was on a Thursday.

Mr. Frazier.

Right.

Mr. Ball.

Was that the 21st of November?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Well, tell us about that.

Mr. Frazier.

Well, I say, we were standing like I said at the four-headed table about half as large as this, not, quite half as large, but anyway I was standing there getting the orders in and he said, "Could I ride home with you this afternoon?"
And I said, "Sure. You know, like I told you, you can go home with me any time you want to, like I say anytime you want to go see your wife that is all right with me."
So automatically I knew it wasn't Friday, I come to think it wasn't Friday and I said, "Why are you going home today?"
And he says, "I am going home to get some curtain rods." He said, "You know, put in an apartment."
He wanted to hang up some curtains and I said, "Very well." And I never thought more about it and I had some invoices in my hands for some orders and I walked on off and started filling the orders.

Mr. Ball.

This was on what floor?

Mr. Frazier.

This was on the first floor.

Mr. Ball.

About what time in the morning?

Mr. Frazier.

I would say sometime between eight and ten, because I go to work at eight and I would break at ten.

Mr. Ball.

Was it at the break time or before?

Mr. Frazier.

It was before the break.

Mr. Ball.

It was before noon then?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did you see him at the noon hour?

Mr. Frazier.

That day?

Mr. Ball.

That day.

Mr. Frazier.

I don't recall, to be frank with you. You know, I will just be frank with you, I say just like after a guy works there for a while and he comes by and he walks by you, you don't pay so much attention but say like somebody else comes in there strange, you automatically just look at them.

Mr. Ball.

Did you talk to him again until quitting time?

Mr. Frazier.

Well, to be frank with you, like I said, the only time you know, like I say, he didn't talk very much and about the only time other than like I told you about talking about them babies and about the weather sometimes he would ask me some questions about a book because down there, I say, if you have ever been acquainted with books a lot of times maybe just a little bit of difference in a title or something like that would make the difference in what