Mr. Ball.

Was it assigned to you by Mr. Truly?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; he just said we had a parking lot there and showed me where it was and said you can park in the parking lot.

Mr. Ball.

Was that the parking lot two or three blocks from the building.

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir, it is down there; right across from the warehouse there.

Mr. Ball.

Then you would walk from there from that parking lot--

Mr. Frazier.

Up to the other Depository up there at the corner of Houston and Main.

Mr. Ball.

We have here a map which has been marked as Commission's Exhibit No. 361.

Mr. Frazier.

I see.

Mr. Ball.

And north is to the bottom of the map.

Mr. Frazier.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Instead of the top, as usually the case.

Mr. Frazier.

Right.

Mr. Ball.

It has two pictures over here, one to the left and one to the right of the map.

Mr. Frazier.

Right.

Mr. Ball.

Let's take a look at the picture to the right of the map. Do you recognize that area?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir; I do.

Mr. Ball.

What is it?

Mr. Frazier.

I see that is right there where you say that is the street going up to the parking lot there.

Mr. Ball.

Do you recognize this car?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

What car is that?

Mr. Frazier.

That is my car.

Mr. Ball.

Is that where you usually park every day?

Mr. Frazier.

Well, I would say at the time being when I first started to work there I first started to park there but now I park on the other side of the fence there.

Mr. Ball.

But that is a picture of the parking lot, is it?

Mr. Frazier.

Right.

Mr. Ball.

Where you park is in the parking lot?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir, I park inside the fence but what I am talking about--I park on the different side of the lot.

Mr. Ball.

Different side of the same lot?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir; we just have one lot there.

Mr. Ball.

Do you see the Texas School Book Depository Building?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir; right there.

Mr. Ball.

And you walked from about the place where your car is parked?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Usually up to the Depository Building?

Mr. Frazier.

Right, correct.

Mr. Ball.

Now, the map to the left, upper left-hand corner of the map, there is a picture.

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Do you see this area where I point my finger which is marked "parking lot No. 1."

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

What is that?

Mr. Frazier.

That is the same parking lot we were looking at right here.

Mr. Ball.

What route do you walk, which way do you walk when you park in this parking lot No. 1, to the Texas School Book Depository Building?

Mr. Frazier.

Do you want me to get up to where I can show it to you?

Mr. Ball.

Yes; show it to us.

Mr. Frazier.

I usually always come up, you know, you can come right, you see the building right down here, and you notice a series of railroad tracks, so usually early in the morning, now about 8 o'clock there is usually not any cars right here, but I say they are switching back and forth.

Mr. Ball.

By "cars" you mean railroad cars?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir; they usually start switching around 8 o'clock. Usually,