Mr. Kantor.

Yes; and then starting here, these notes were made immediately outside the hospital as I stood outside talking with Senator Yarborough, and these from this point on.

Mr. Griffin.

You are talking about the bottom of the page of the "Yarb" notes?

Mr. Kantor.

Correct. From that point on--the top of that page to the bottom of the following page I made no notes--which would be approximately a half hour while I was on the telephone and talking in the hallway to the Texas Congressman.

Mr. Griffin.

The notes which start on the page which said "JFK died at approximately 1 pan." Where was that notation made?

Mr. Kantor.

It was made in the makeshift pressroom of the second floor where Malcolm Kilduff led us.

Mr. Griffin.

So there is one page you refer to here which stars out, "Yar-borough--third car back" and winds up with some notes at the bottom of page which I won't attempt to read, not because your writing is any worse than mine but just to save time here for the moment, those notes were all made before the press conference but were made at Parkland Hospital?

Mr. Kantor.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, do they--do all of these notes represent things which were told you while you were at Parkland Hospital or do they represent things that you might have learned even before arriving at Parkland Hospital?

Mr. Kantor.

No. I am reading this as you were talking, and everything here was gained in conversation with Senator Yarborough standing outside the emergency area of the hospital. That is true, that is right.

Mr. Griffin.

Having had a chance to look at those notes again and thinking about our conversation during the last couple of days--is there any indication from those notes that you knew or had a strong idea prior to the time Kilduff gave this press conference that President Kennedy was not going to survive?

Mr. Kantor.

No. I don't know whether it was a matter of not wanting to accept the strong possibility, but really until I went into the hospital and saw the priest in the hallway and the look on Lady Bird Johnson's face, I had no strong premonition about it.

Mr. Griffin.

But did you see the priest and Lady Bird Johnson before the press conference?

Mr. Kantor.

Yes; I did, while I was on the telephone talking to my office in Washington.

Mr. Griffin.

Right. By the time you got off the telephone what was your--and having seen Lady Bird Johnson and the priest and so forth?

Mr. Kantor.

I still didn't know that the President had been hit in the head, and when Congressman Thomas told me that a brain surgeon had been brought in, I knew then that he had been hit in the head but I didn't know until that point even where he had been hit.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, you have had a chance, I suppose, to talk with other newspaper' people and other people who were present at Parkland Hospital since this event, have you not?

Mr. Kantor.

Not in depth. I have had some conversations with people who were there.

Mr. Griffin.

In your conversations with people who were there, have you gained any information that those who were in the area around Parkland Hospital attentive to what might be going on, had an idea or believed that the President was dead before the announcement was made by Mr. Kilduff?

Mr. Kantor.

Well, I am sure I have not asked anybody outside of a couple of Congressmen I have talked to since then who were a lot closer to the situation than I obviously was at that time, and they really knew what was going on. And I haven't asked anyone, I guess I felt no reason to ask and I don't recall anyone volunteering that they specifically believed the President was moribund.

Mr. Griffin.

I don't want to push you into saying something--

Mr. Kantor.

I am not aware of that.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, do your notes here do you have any notes here which reflect your observations in the Dallas Police Department from the time you arrived there until the time you left Dallas?