Mr. Griffin.

Hospital, did you see any other press representatives whom you had remembered from your days in Dallas, who worked in Dallas?

Mr. Kantor.

I didn't see any outside. However, by the time Kilduff made his announcement at 1:30, there were newsmen coming in from all over whom I recognized. And because of this weird situation, unreal situation, I didn't speak to any then.
During the next hour or so that I was in the hospital I saw a number of news people from both Dallas and Fort Worth who I at least said hello to, who I know.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember if there were any people from the Dallas Morning News ,that you saw at Parkland Hospital, either reporters or photographers?

Mr. Kantor.

I can tell you who I remember seeing, and I don't think I recall seeing a Dallas Morning News person at all until I got to the police station later that afternoon.

Mr. Griffin.

You are going to tell me who you remember seeing from the Dallas papers at Parkland Hospital, or just who you generally remember seeing during those 3 days.

Mr. Kantor.

I can tell you .who I can remember seeing in the makeshift press headquarters from Dallas and Fort Worth.

Mr. Griffin.

At Parkland?

Mr. Kantor.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. But I take it you don't remember anybody from the Morning News?

Mr. Kantor.

I don't recall anyone from the Dallas Morning News, no, as a matter of fact.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. How far is the Morning News Building in Dallas from the Times Herald Building?

Mr. Kantor.

The better part of a mile.

Mr. Griffin.

When you saw Ruby, did you notice anybody with him? Did he seem to be with anybody?

Mr. Kantor.

He didn't seem to be with anybody. The only other people I noticed in this area--as I say, it seemed like a small entranceway, and it was just a very few steps to the stairway--were these people who appeared to be hospital attendants.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, do you recall if at the time you were at Parkland Hospital there were television cameras setup outside the main entranceway?

Mr. Kantor.

No. I was told later on that various people around the country who I know saw me on television as I came out to talk to the Congressmen before they went out to Love Field, and I was not aware of any cameras.

Mr. Griffin.

But it is your best impression that you were shown on TV?

Mr. Kantor.

Well, I have been told that.

Mr. Griffin.

Have you any idea what TV networks you appeared on?

Mr. Kantor.

No, sir; none.

Mr. Griffin.

Now--

Mr. Kantor.

This happened frequently, incidentally, over the weekend, also, in the police station as well. I don't know--I guess all the networks were involved at one point or another, but I don't know when or where.

Mr. Griffin.

In ,the first report that you made of this encounter with Ruby, you reported that you saw him before you went to the press conference.

Mr. Kantor.

That is right.

Mr. Griffin.

And now as I understand your testimony, you are not sure whether it was before or after.

Mr. Kantor.

Yes; and the thing that gave me pause was that Jack Ruby had specifically said to me, or asked me my opinion about closing his places for three nights, and it occurred to me later on that no announcement of the President's death had been made. as I was following Kilduff up the stairway, at 1:30, whereas at approximately 2 o'clock it had been made.

Mr. Griffin.

Would you try 'to focus on your state of mind at the time that you first wrote your newspaper article about this, and reported that it was before the press conference. What was it at that time that made you think that you saw Ruby before the press conference?