Mr. Kantor.

wrong side of the street. He took us across a field, I remember, at one point. We made it there very quickly.

Mr. Griffin.

Would this be a matter of 2 or 3 minutes, or 5 minutes?

Mr. Kantor.

I would guess 2 or 3 minutes, because Parkland Hospital, especially if you take shortcuts like that, is very close.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, did this man park and let you out, or did the vehicle just let you out and go on?

Mr. Kantor.

We were waved on to the emergency entrance side of Parkland by a policeman, and the driver let us out of the car, I would guess, 25 yards from the entrance.

Mr. Griffin.

I wonder if you would do this. I am going to hand you a pad of paper here and a pencil, and ask you if in a rough fashion you can sketch out where you were in relationship to Parkland Hospital, and draw on there a sufficient enough outline to indicate so that we can talk from here on about the diagram and where you went from time to time.

Mr. Kantor.

Well, now, you don't mean where I was in relationship to Parkland Hospital at the time of the shooting?

Mr. Griffin.

No; I mean once we have arrived at the scene now, and the man has let you out about 25 yards from the entrance. Why don't we star with the diagram that shows that area, and would have enough detail i.n it to show the other areas you went to at Parkland Hospital.

Mr. Kantor.

All right. Well, roughly, at least as a start--

Mr. Griffin.

Excuse me. Let me mark this. I will put a notation down here. I am going to mark this yellow sheet of legal size paper "Seth Kantor Deposition, June 2, 1964, Exhibit No. 1."
(The document referred to was marked Seth Kantor Deposition, June 2, 1964, Exhibit No. 1, for identification.)

Mr. Griffin.

Now, referring to Exhibit No. 1, Mr. Kantor, why don't you go ahead and fill in the details and talk as you think is appropriate.

Mr. Kantor.

All right. We were waved in off of Harry Hines Boulevard, by an officer, which led us on a path on the southern side of the hospital to a point where the emergency entrance is on the western side. We were let out of the station wagon about 25 yards, I would guess, directly opposite the emergency entranceway.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. Now, you have marked that--shall we call that point 1 on the diagram. Mark that point 1, where you were let out.

Mr. Kantor.

All right.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, what did you do from there?

Mr. Kantor.

I remember that I was one of the reporters who hollered an assurance to the driver of the car .that he could stay with us. He was worried about what would happen to him and his car. And he wanted, also, to know what was going on. But I left him cold. I ran as fast as I could to the front of the emergency entranceway, where I saw the President's limousine. There I saw a great deposit of blood on the ground next to it, on the right-hand side of the car.
Senator Ralph Yarborough, of Texas, was standing very close by, probably 4 or 5 yards away. And I went up to him and asked him what had happened, and he was reluctant to tell me what he had seen, although subsequently he told me he had seen enough to know that the President was dead, or in a dying condition. But he gave me several comments which would lead me to believe that a horrible thing had happened. And I told him that I absolutely had to get in.
He led me to a police officer standing in front of the emergency door and told the officer that I was with the party, and I produced my White House credentials. And the officer let me in.
I took up search for a telephone. I saw Merriman Smith of United Press International using a phone at a desk in a hallway, and went past him, down a hallway just a very short distance to where I found a phone in a booth.

Mr. Griffin.

This was a pay telephone?

Mr. Kantor.

No; to my best recollection it was not. I don't really remember for sure but I don't believe it was.

Mr. Griffin.

But the phone was on the first floor of Parkland Hospital?