Mr. Oliver.

of Jackson, but for which the Jackson paper evidently acts as the local paper. I understand there is a small paper in the town itself, but one that seems to be not very highly regarded.

Mr. Jenner.

What did you do, make a long distance call down there?

Mr. Oliver.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And in making that call you were advised by whom that there was or was not such a person ?

Mr. Oliver.

Well, I certainly was advised----

Mr. Jenner.

Relate what you did on it.

Mr. Oliver.

What I did was place a person-to-person call to Captain Cloy, giving his full name.

Mr. Jenner.

Richard C.?

Mr. Oliver.

Richard C. Cloy, in McComb, Miss. And .it seems to me there is another item of information about him there which I was also able to use. Yes; it states Captain-cloy's wife is the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. J. W. Burt, of Summit. I am not too sure that I used the name of Burt. I may have simply .had that at hand. In any case, connection was made by the operator to some home, I assume a home in Mc0omb, from which she was referred to another number, and at the other number a female voice replied, I assumed it was the captain's mother, but had no means of verifying that--that the captain was in Germany and that there was no way of reaching him by telephone. I regard that as verifying his existence. I subsequently asked a friend.of mine in Jackson, Miss., to verify his existence, and he reported to me that he did.

Mr. Jenner.

You have never talked with Captain Cloy?

Mr. Oliver.

No; I had been unable to reach him. Very possibly had I been willing to persist and spend the money for transoceanic phones, I could have done so.

Mr. Jenner.

I show you a document I have marked Oliver Exhibit No. 9 which consists of pages A-4596, and A---4597 of the Congressional Record of Thursday, September 3, 1964, which consists of extension of remarks of Morris K. Udall, of the House of Representatives, commencing on page A-4596, and running over to page A-4597. Are you familiar with those newspaper reports that Representative Udall has placed of record in the Congressional Record?

Mr. Oliver.

No; this is new to me. Congressman Udall is evidently much upset.

Mr. Jenner.

You have anticipated my question. I was going to ask, well, I did ask if you were familiar with it. That is as you say new to you.

Mr. Oliver.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

While you are looking at that, Doctor, I would like to mark your speech with an Exhibit number, and in fairness so as to have the accurate speech rather than the newspaper reports.

Mr. Oliver.

Very good. Of course this man is reporting in part.

Mr. Jenner.

I beg your pardon?

Mr. Oliver.

Of course this man is reporting in part.

Mr. Jenner.

You are now referring to Oliver Exhibit No. 9?

Mr. Oliver.

The first by Eric Cavallero. You will return that manuscript?

Mr. Jenner.

Everything.
While you are browsing on Oliver Exhibit No. 9, I have before me a sheaf of sheets, typewritten with longhand notations which I have marked Oliver Exhibit No. 10, and I think you estimated they ran 39 pages plus a couple of A pages.
(The document referred to was marked Oliver Exhibit No. 9 for identification )

Mr. Oliver.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

There are some interlineations in longhand and some block printing on various of the pages. Are those interlineations and block printing in your handwriting?

Mr. Oliver.

Practically all of them. One or two of them may not be.

Mr. Jenner.

Why don't you identify the ones that aren't.

Mr. Oliver.

This little--

Mr. Jenner.

Page 7 in the lower left-hand corner is a notation reading "This month August 1964" and that is the handwriting of whom ?

Mr. Oliver.

Mrs. Oliver. That is, I am perfectly willing to accept the responsibility for all of the handwritten notations that appear here.