Mr. Jenner.

The Worker, yelled for the appointment of Earl Warren to investigate the assassination' before (italicized) the appointment was made, or at least, before the appointment was disclosed to the public.
I take it that statement was based on some news report?

Mr. Oliver.

On the actual publication in The Worker of this article calling for the appointment of Warren.

Mr. Jenner.

I know we have that.

Mr. Oliver.

I am sure you must have. It is a well-known publication.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes. But the statement I have just read was based upon that issue of The Worker to which you have now made reference.

Mr. Oliver.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

You made a deduction from that fact of publication?

Mr. Oliver.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

Proceed to page 21. The lower right-hand corner of page 21 commences a paragraph the first few words of which or the first sentence of which reads "Careful observers were aware of the feeling of crisis in conspira-torial circles before the assassination."
On what was that statement based, or to be more accurate what was the source from which you made that deduction, if it is one,

Mr. Oliver.

My conversations with fairly numerous observers of the conspiracy and its operations in this country.

Mr. Jenner.

Are you using "conspiracy" in a general sense rather than a particular conspiracy 'directed toward this event?

Mr. Oliver.

The Communist conspiracy as a whole; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

You then go on to state what appears to be a statement of fact or you represent it to be.
"In June of 1963 an experienced American military man made a careful analysis of the situation at that time, and in his highly confidential report concluded, on the basis of indications in Communist and crypto Communist sources, that the conspiracy's schedule called for a major incident to create national shock before Thanksgiving."
Who is that experienced American military man to whom you had reference?
( Conferring with counsel. )

Mr. Oliver.

The observer mentioned there is Col. Chesley Clark, retired.

Mr. Jenner.

Clark.

Mr. Oliver.

C-l-a-r-k, of the American Air Force.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he publish--this is a new name to me--- did he publish something on which you rely in making that statement?

Mr. Oliver.

This he told me not with a pledge that it was confidential, but with the implication that I would not disclose his name in a publication. I see no bar to disclosing it for the purpose of these hearings. If I may say, his estimates were made entirely from, what should we say, experience in psychological warfare and in reading the indications in the sequence of events and the form the propaganda was taking, and that the obviously had not, so far as I know, no inside information

Mr. Jenner.

This conversation or conversations that you had had with Colonel Clark, did it or they occur between the time of the assassination and the time of the publication of your article ?

Mr. Oliver.

No, before the assassination, I am sure. I would say perhaps--it is hard to recollect but I would say a month or 6 weeks before.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it, I don't even like to say this because I don't want you to take it wrong, certainly there was nothing in Colonel Clark's statement to you, sir, that carried any implication of any anticipation of a possible assassination of President Kennedy?

Mr. Oliver.

No. Of a, however--it did astutely anticipate some event that would create a national shock.

Mr. Jenner.

When I say I hesitate to say it but I know what you would have done, I think I know what you would 'have done, had there been any implication, you would have alarmed the authorities.

Mr. Oliver.

There was no--

Mr. Jenner.

I am correct about that, am I not?