Mr. Oliver.

Well, I was simply using the term in its usual sense, with reference to a person recently admitted to a cult or organization under discipline. And Mr. Meyer makes the point that from the very early stages of a person's membership in the Communist Party, he is accustomed to the k4nd of discipline which would make it impossible for him, let us say, to marry or divorce, to change Jobs, to do anything of sufficient importance to affect his usefulness as an agent without the permission of his superiors. I should say nobody is going to take it for granted when I cite Frank Meyer's source that is my only source of knowledge of Communist methods. Let me add that I have read a great deal on the organization and operation of the Communist Party and all of that necessarily goes into my reasoning on this subject.

Mr. Jenner.

Then you proceed to, and I am quoting again, "The failure does not reflect on the assassin's professional training: General Walker happened to turn his head at the instant the shot was fired."
What is the source of your statement that General Walker happened to turn his head at the instant the shot was fired ?

Mr. Oliver.

Well, I believe it was published at the time, but there I rely primarily on General Walker himself.

Mr. Jenner.

Did General Walker tell you that himself ?

Mr. Oliver.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

You will be interested in reading his testimony. I take it then it is the statement of General Walker and newspaper accounts?

Mr. Oliver.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

And those are your two sources?

Mr. Oliver.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

You proceed, "according to a story that has been neither confirmed nor denied officially, at the time I write, Oswald was arrested as a suspect but was released through the personal intervention of Robert F. Kennedy and all inquiry into the attempted assassination of a great American was halted."
And you have a footnote. The footnote reads, "Reprinted in the Councilor, 228 Oil and Gas Building, Shreveport, La., December 20, 1963."
Do you have a copy of the Councilor to which you have referred in your footnote ?

Mr. Oliver.

I do, I believe. Yes; you will find it at the bottom of page 1.

Mr. Jenner.

May I mark this as an exhibit, please7

Mr. Oliver.

I should like that returned to me for my files.

Mr. Jenner.

That will be easy because we can duplicate this on Xerox very readily.

Mr. Oliver.

Very good. Incidentally, if you want a somewhat better duplication you will find this in this American Eagle reprint, also.

Mr. Jenner.

The Commission Exhibit No. 1015 that you have before.you?

Mr. Oliver.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you identify that for me, please?

Mr. Oliver.

You will find it on the page, the rest of which consists of excerpts from the Dallas Morning News, headed in large black pencil 12/6.

Mr. Jenner.

And the date, or the heading at the top, boldfaced heading is "Soviet Insinuations call for Query Oswald." On the bottom right-hand side of the page appears what apparently is a news clipping.

Mr. Oliver.

It is from the Deutsche National Zeitung.

Mr. Jenner.

We have been identifying, Mr. Reporter, a page in Commission Exhibit No. 1015. Is that correct ?

Mr. Oliver.

That is right

Mr. Jenner.

I have marked as Oliver Exhibit No. 4 the December 20, 1963, issue of The Councilor volume 2, No. 3, published by Citizens Council of Louisiana, Inc., for Americans everywhere, which Dr. Oliver has produced for me, which I will return to him, or I will return it to you, Mr. Unger, as soon as we have duplicated it.

Mr. Oliver.

Do you not have a file of the papers yourselves ?

Mr. Jenner.

If we don't have it it will be a modern miracle. You are asking for my personal knowledge. I must say I don't know.

Mr. Oliver.

Right
(The document referred to was marked Oliver Exhibit No. 4 for identification. )