(Testimony of Ralph Paul)
Mr. Hubert.
Yes.
Mr. Paul.
And the reason I didn't want to appear right away was because of what they did to--what's his name that lived with Jack.
Mr. Hubert.
George Senator?
Mr. Paul.
George Senator--they put him in jail.
Mr. Hubert.
When did you find that out?
Mr. Paul.
When I got to town, the same day.
Mr. Hubert.
So, really what you were doing in addition to avoiding the press, you wanted to avoid being arrested and you thought you night be?
Mr. Paul.
Well, I thought that after what they did to George Senator, that they might do the same thing to me.
Mr. Hubert.
Well, I can understand your thinking, but is it fair then to state that what you were doing was making yourself unavailable to the police as well as unavailable to the press.
Mr. Paul.
That's right.
Mr. Hubert.
That is, your motivations for not being available were twofold: You didn't want to see the press, you wanted to avoid the press, and you also wanted to avoid the police because you were worried that they might put you in jail?
Mr. Paul.
That's right.
Mr. Hubert.
And it's for that reason that you went to the theater, is that right?
Mr. Paul.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
And finally, of course, I believe it was one of your friends then that insisted that you should allow yourself to be interviewed by the FBI, and that finally that occurred about 9 o'clock at night?
Mr. Paul.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
How did you learn that Senator had been arrested ?
Mr. Paul.
I was over at his office--Tom Howard's office.
Mr. Hubert.
And he told you so?
Mr. Paul.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
And you thought that your connection with Ruby was close enough that you might be arrested too?
Mr. Paul.
That's right.
Mr. Hubert.
Did Ruby mention the AGVA to you at anytime during these conversations ?
Mr. Paul.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
You know what that is?
Mr. Paul.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Did he mention the Weinsteins and the trouble he was having with them ?
Mr. Paul.
That was all the time before.
Mr. Hubert.
WhiCh time before?
Mr. Paul.
Many weeks before he was having trouble with Weinstein.
Mr. Hubert.
But I mean, did he speak to you about it during any of these
conversations on Friday or Saturday?
Mr. Paul.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
He did not?
Mr. Paul.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Did he talk about Oswald at all?
Mr. Paul.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
He never mentioned his name
Mr. Paul.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Once again, did you ever tell Ruby some such words as, "You're crazy," when he spoke to you on Saturday about doing something?
Mr. Paul.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
I don't mean that you used that exact phrase, "You're crazy," but some such phrase to indicate to him your disapproval of what he was suggesting?
Mr. Paul.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Now, you know of course, Karen Bennett. You have just identified her. Did you know Kathy Kay?
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