I don't mean I was not surprised that this happened but that only in a like Dallas, I guess was the words I used, would a thing like this happen, was a ridiculous thing to say. It could have happened anywhere. And then he kept repeating himself. He was so absolutely repetitious about those Poor people. Now, I want to make this point clear. He had been--oh, yes. It comes back now. He was squawking or beefing to me about the fact that his tors had opened their place of business Saturday night and that he had closed. He had closed his. And how terrible he thought it was and how unfair he thought it was. And then he went into this conversation of these poor people, these poor people, I feel so sorry for them.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he mention what poor people he was talking about?

Mr. Meyers.

This is what I am getting at now. My original concept was these poor people he was talking about were his competitors whom he felt no heart and no---well, no feelings, you know; they were money hungry and this bit." And then it dawned on me as he went on and kept mentioning the woman and the children and then I realized he was talking not about his petitors but about Mrs. Kennedy and her children, and I don't know exactly what I said to him. How could I remember exactly other than, well, Jack, I am sure that she will make you know, life goes on. She will make a life for herself, and so on and so forth. Then he was obviously very upset. He let me say it this way--in all of my conversations with him through the that I have known him, he had occasions to get to a degree other words, he would almost get incoherent because he was so anxious to get his point over. I am sure you have talked to people who will do this. night he seemed far more incoherent than I have ever listened to him. The guy sounded absolutely like he had flipped his lid, I guess. Of course, you all have to understand I have read so much, everybody swinging this way.

Mr. Griffin.

Try to focus on what your view was at that time?

Mr. Meyers.

I am trying very hard because I am sure you realize I want tell you everything that I know. And I also have a reason for .this. He became so incoherent, so vehement about these poor people, these poor people, the children, I said, Jack, where are you, and I don't remember where he said he was, I really don't I said, look--he said come have a drink with me or a cup of coffee with me. That is right. He asked me to come and have something with him, some food or drink. I said, Jack, that is silly. I am undressed. have bathed. I am in bed. I Want to go to sleep but, I said, if you want a cup of coffee you come on over here and come on up to my room and I will have some coffee or food sent up to my room and we can sit here and talk. He said, no, no, he had things to do. He couldn't come over said at the .time or not but he couldn't come over. while and the last thing I said, Jack, why don't you night's sleep and forget this thing. And you call me night because I have no plans for tomorrow night. I don't know whether he This went on for a little go ahead and get a good about 6 o'clock tomorrow Call me at 6 tomorrow night and we will have dinner together and he said okay. I said, fine, Jack, I will look forward to your calling about 6 o'clock Sunday night. He didn't call me.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall--you say he mentioned to you where he was.

Mr. Meyers.

No; he didn't tell me where he was. You mean he called me Saturday night?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Meyers.

Well, I am saying if he told me where he was, I have no recollection of it. I don't know where he was when he called me.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he mention anything to you to the effect that his sister had suggested that he call a friend or that he call you?

Mr. Meyers.

Not that I remember. You must understand one thing. You see, I have never met his sister. To this day I have never met his sister and whether his sister knew me or knew about me, I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he mention anything to you about having taken any pictures

of a billboard in Dallas?

Mr. Meyers.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember his mentioning a sign which urged that Earl Warren be impeached?