(Testimony of Lawrence V. Meyers)
Mr. Meyers.
That was Thursday, the 21st.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you ever meet his friend, Ralph Paul ?
Mr. Meyers.
No.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you ever meet his roommate, George Senator?
Mr. Meyers.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
When did you meet George Senator?
Mr. Meyers.
Oh, golly, here again it would go back to shortly after I met Jack, and I met him and talked to him, oh, I don't know, half a dozen times since that occasion.
Mr. Griffin.
Did Jack ever discuss with you any political views that he had?
Mr. Meyers.
No; never got involved in any of that kind of thing.
Mr. Griffin.
Did he ever ,talk about President Kennedy ?
Mr. Meyers.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
When did he talk about President Kennedy to you ?
Mr. Meyers.
Here again I am guessing. I guess shortly after Kennedy was
elected. Shortly after--when was Kennedy elected, in 1960 ?
Mr. Griffin.
Yes.
Mr. Meyers.
I don't know. Somewhere in 1961, 1962. We discussed it a number of times, as a matter of fact. I guess the best way to say it is he worshipped Kennedy and his family. He sort of made maybe it was a father complex, father image or the family that he wished he had himself.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you remember anything specific that he said about President Kennedy?
Mr. Meyers.
No; just generalities. Other than the fact that he thought that John F. Kennedy was possibly the greatest man that ever lived.
Mr. Griffin.
How did this topic happen to be brought up?
Mr. Meyers.
Oh, golly, I don't know, Mr. Griffin. I don't know. We could have been talking about something that Kennedy had done at that time I don't know. I would have no way of knowing.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, the many times that you were at the Carousel Club, did you ever see a man there who resembled Lee Oswald ?
Mr. Meyers.
Never.
Mr. Griffin.
I want to pick up now your contacts with Jack Ruby after the 26th of September. Do you recall the first time that you would have seen him after that time?
Mr. Meyers.
I couldn't. It would be so difficult I would have to go back through my traveling records to seen when I was in Dallas. Now, I could have seen him, and I repeat, I don't remember. I could have seen him once or twice between the 26th of September--I don't know why you chose that date, I assume you have your reasons--and the 21st of November, but I frankly have no recollection of it. It just wasn't that important enough to me to make any---you know, to have any memory of it.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you happen to attend the Texas State Fair at any time ?
Mr. Meyers.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
And did you see Jack Ruby at that time?
Mr. Meyers.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
Was this in the fall of 1963 ?
Mr. Meyers.
Oh, golly, I suppose so. What were the dates of the fair?
Mr. Griffin.
Do you remember being at the Texas State Fair?
Mr. Meyers.
Oh, yes.
Mr. Griffin.
In the fall of 1963 ?
Mr. Meyers.
Well, now, you have me at a disadvantage. I remember distinctly being at the Texas State Fair.
Mr. Griffin.
How many times have you been at the fair?
Mr. Meyers.
Once.
Mr. Griffin.
Tell us about that occasion.
Mr. Meyers.
Well, this was an unusual occasion. I was at Jack's club. Here, I don't remember the night. I have no recollection of the date, and he introduced me to one of his employees, one of his dancers.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you remember who that was?
Mr. Meyers.
Joy, Joyce, something like that. The name was either Joy or Joyce. I have no recollection of the last name.
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