Mr. Hubert.

To play up to big shots, you mean?

Mr. Pryor.

Well--to

Mr. Hubert.

To pretend to be a big shot or to try to be a big shot?

Mr. Pryor.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he say why he was in the police station at all?

Mr. Pryor.

It seems like that he had bought some sandwiches and coffee for the officers; I believe that was it.

Mr. Hubert.

Is that what he told you ?

Mr. Pryor.

Yes, sir; that he had bought some sandwiches and coffee, and now, who they went to, I don't know, but that was what he said.

Mr. Hubert.

This you know from your own knowledge from him?

Mr. Pryor.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

You haven't read this in the paper?

Mr. Pryor.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

What did he say concerning Oswald?

Mr. Pryor.

Well, that he was allowed to enter the room where Oswald was and that he did get close enough to touch him, and the one thing that I didn't think of it at the time but due to the chain of events that took place, the one thing that he said, was, "He's a little weasel of a guy." I mean--that's his exact words that Jack used.

Mr. Hubert.

When he said that, did he have any particular type of expression or emotion ?

Mr. Pryor.

Well-

Mr. Hubert.

That is to say, did his voice carry some suggestion of hatred or revulsion?

Mr. Pryor.

Yes, sir; to that degree, although I don't for the life of me believe that Jack had any premeditation of murdering Oswald. I mean--you have to

Mr. Hubert.

You're talking about the time that you are speaking of, that is to say, on the morning of November 23 ?

Mr. Pryor.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he mention to you that he had made any comment himself in the course of that meeting?

Mr. Pryor.

Only later on--he had mentioned to the District Attorney Henry Wade, who was talking on the telephone to someone, and Mr. Wade had made a statement that Oswald was associated with a Cuban organization and that the organization that he had mentioned was anti-Castro and Jack corrected him and told him it was the organization that was pro-Castro.

Mr. Hubert.

Jack told that to you ?

Mr. Pryor.

Yes, sir; and that Mr. Wade seemed to be appreciative of that fact, and that he said--Jack's words were, "You see, I'm in good with the district attorney" or something to that effect. I mean, he was trying to impress me with the fact that he was acquainted with Henry Wade.

Mr. Hubert.

And that he had been able to correct him ?

Mr. Pryor.

Yes, sir; I mean--to know Jack is to realize why he would say things like that.

Mr. Hubert.

Apparently, in correcting Mr. Wade, he pointed out to Mr. Wade that Oswald's committee or group or something was not anti-Castro but pro-Castro, is that so?

Mr. Pryor.

Yes, sir; I believe that was it.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he indicate in any way how he knew what Oswald's political feelings with respect to the Cuban problem were?

Mr. Pryor.

Well, I think that he had gathered. that through the news media, either newspaper, television, radio or--not that he was associated or connected in any way, but I do feel that that was it.

Mr. Hubert.

What I'm trying to get at is .this: That Ruby apparently in correcting Mr. Wade, associated Oswald with the pro-Castro group rather than with the anti-Castro group, as Mr. Wade had apparently mistakenly done?

Mr. Pryor.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Was it merely that he was correcting the terminology of Mr. Wade or did you gather that he himself had some knowledge of Oswald's political feelings?