Mr. Norton.

I was talking with some other members of the club and I was on the other side of the room and my band had just taken 'their last break, their last 15-minute break, and that's the only reason I was able really to fix the time.
You see, we're open until 1 o'clock on Saturday. They have 15-minute breaks.

Mr. Hubert.

That was from 12 to 12:15?

Mr. Norton.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Do they observe that fairly carefully?

Mr. Norton.

Oh, yes; very definftely.

Mr. Hubert.

I mean; would you say the break would always occur at that time?

Mr. Norton.

Well, it could vary 5 minutes either way but not much more than that.

Mr. Hubert.

Not much more than that, you say?

Mr. Norton.

No; my customers are in a habit of knowing that they have a 15-minute break on the hour and then back for an hour.

Mr. Hubert.

That's customary throughout the industry ?

Mr. Norton.

Yes; it is.

Mr. Hubert.

They play for an hour ?

Mr. Norton.

Forty-five minutes on and 15 minutes off.

Mr. Hubert.

And this was on the last break ?

Mr. Norton.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

You say he came in right after the break?

Mr. Norton.

Well, I don't know exactly when. I walked by his table and didn't even know he was in the house. Like I do--I always try to notice who's in my place and I looked backward as I walked by and there he was, just sitting there by himself.

Mr. Hubert.

The band had just broken up for its break so that you fix it at 12 o'clock ?

Mr. Norton.

That's about--it's in that vicinity.

Mr. Hubert.

Is it possible he could have been in there for a considerable time prior to that?

Mr. Norton.

No; I don't think so. I can't say for sure. My manager was at the door and saw him and greeted him when he came in.

Mr. Hubert.

Who was that?

Mr. Norton.

Anice Byrum.

Mr. Hubert.

I think you gave the full name awhile ago?

Mr. Norton.

Well, that was her husband's name. She is manager of my club and he has this other place.

Mr. Hubert.

What is her name?

Mr. Norton.

Anice Byrum.

Mr. Hubert.

And she's the wife of whom?

Mr. Norton.

She's the wife of the manager of the Keynote.

Mr. Hubert.

And his name is Louis?

Mr. Norton.

His name is Louis Byrum.

Mr. Hubert.

And where do they live?

Mr. Norton.

They live on Singing Hills Street in Oak Cliff.

Mr. Hubert.

She saw him come in?

Mr. Norton.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Has she ever spoken to you about what time it was?

Mr. Norton.

No-- of course, with the shock of it all Sunday and we discussed it the first part of the week in the office, and all I remember her saying was he hadn't been there any time at all, because I didn't see him come in, and I asked her, I said, "How long had he been in there?"

Mr. Hubert.

What did she say?

Mr. Norton.

She said it hadn't been long. He had had time to finish a Coca-Cola because when I saw him and said "Hello" and turned around and sat down, he had just finished a coke and I was having a drink and I ordered him one, another coke, and he drank another coke and he drank that and he left.

Mr. Hubert.

So, from the time you saw him until the time he left, how much time passed?

Mr. Norton.

I'd say 15 or 20 minutes.

Mr. Hubert.

You were siring at the table with him at that time?