Mr. Newnam.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

But the numbered desks---all persons, if seated at those desks--

would have their backs to Houston Street ?

Mr. Newnam.

Yes; that's right.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, would you take the map, and dictate into the record who was the occupant of the various desks, and I think you have already done sO as to No. 2, so you may start with No. 3.

Mr. Newnam.

No. 3--Miss Georgia Mayor, secretary.

Mr. Hubert.

Who is she the secretary to ?

Mr. Newnam.

She is t,he just an office secretary--no individual.

Mr. Hubert.

By the way, before you go on--I take it that all of this chart and the position of the desks and the people occupying them relate to November 22, 1963; is that correct ?

Mr. Newnam.

Yes, sir; and I was just having to think. There have been a few changes from the present back to then.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, if we can just put it as to the 22d of November, then we

won't have to worry about who occupies the various places now.

Mr. Newnam.

All right.

Mr. Hubert.

No. 3 was Miss Georgia Mayor ?

Mr. Newnam.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

All right; go on.

Mr. Newnam.

No. 4---Mrs. Walker, secretary to the retail advertising manager.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember her first name?

Mr. Newnam.

Wanda.

Mr. Hubert.

Mrs. Wanda Walker?

Mr. Newnam.

Mrs. Wanda Walker. No. 5--Mr. Dick Saunders, advertising
salesman. No. 6---Mr. Charley Mulkey.

Mr. Hubert.

How do you spell that?

Mr. Newnam.

M-u-l-k-e-y, advertising salesman--these are all salesmen. No. 7--Mr. Larry Kramer (spelling) K-r-a-m-e-r, advertising salesman.
Did I give you No. 6 ?
The REPORTER. No. 6 was Mr. Mulkey.

Mr. Newnam.

No. 6 should be Mr. Ralph Crumpton, advertising. salesman; 7 Mr. Kramer; 8 will be Mr. Charley Mulkey, advertising salesman; 9 Mr. Douglas Raiford; No. 10 Mr. "Rip" Collins---we call him by the nickname "Rip" Collins, advertising salesman; No. 11 Mr. Len (spelling) L-e-n Reynolds, advertising salesman; No. 12 Mr. Jim Packer, advertising salesman; No. 13 Mr. Paul Jones, advertising salesman; No. 14 Mr. Jim Willmon (spelling) W-i-l-l-m-o-n, advertising salesman; No. 15 Mr. Buddy Jones, assistant retail advertising manager; No. 16 Mr. Bob Johnson, advertising salesman; No. 17 Mr. Jim Sullivan, advertising salesman; No. 18 Mr. Bill Rea (spelling) R-e-a, advertising salesman; No. 19 Mr. Hal Cooley (spelling) Co-o-l-e-y, advertising salesman; No. 20 Mr. Jules Allen (spelling) J-u-l-e-s A-l-l-e-n, advertising salesman; No. 21 Mr. Bill Lawson, advertising salesman; No. 22 Mr. Byron Bates, advertising salesman; No. 23 John Newnam, which is my desk, advertising salesman; No. 24 Mr. Jerry Coley (spelling) C-o-l-e-y, advertising salesman; No. 25 Mr. Don Campbell (spelling) C-a-m-p-b-e-l-1, advertising salesman; No. 26 Mr. Kenney Ritchel; No. 27 Mr. Dick Houston, advertising salesman.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, I show you two documents. The first one I have marked for identification as follows: "Dallas, Texas, June 26, 1964, Exhibit No. 1, Deposi-t-ion of John Newnam," and I have signed it, and it purports to be an interview of you by FBI Agents Peden and Garris on December 4, 1963. I think you've read that and I ask you if that is a correct report of the interview with you?

Mr. Newnam.

The report as I read it is all correct---the second line of paragraph 2 which states, "A short time after he, Newnam, sat down," I would like to add "sat down at. Mr. Byron Bates' desk," which is .adjacent to my desk.

Mr. Hubert.

What again is Mr. Bates' desk, referring to the chart identified as Exhibit No. 4 ?

Mr. Newnam.

That would be desk No. 22.

Mr. Hubert.

What change do you want to make that you sat down--

Mr. Newnam.

At Mr. Bates' desk, which would indicate I sat down next to my desk where Jack was sitting.