Mr. Hubert.

Harvey Oswald and the participation of Jack Ruby therein. Particularly as to you, Mr. Newnam, the nature of the inquiry today is to determine what facts you know about the death of Oswald and any other pertinent facts you may know about the general inquiry and about Jack Ruby and his operations and assocites and so forth, and his movements on the pertinent days. Now, I believe you have appeared here today by virtue of a letter written to you by Mr. J. Lee Rankin, general counsel of the staff of the President's Commission,
asking you to be present; is that correct, sir?

Mr. Newnam.

That is correct.

Mr. Hubert.

When did you receive that letter, Mr. Newnam ?

Mr. Newnam.

I received this letter Wednesday, June 24.

Mr. Hubert.

What is the date of the letter or the mail stamp, if it has a mail stamp, and if it doesn't have a mail stamp, what is the date of the letter ?

Mr. Newnam.

The letter was written--the letter is dated June 22, 1964.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you have any objection to having your deposition taken today?

Mr. Newnam.

None whatsoever; no, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Let me state to you that under the rules of the Commission all witnesses have a right to have a 3-day written notice, but the rules also provide that a witness may waive that notice, and I take it from your previous answer that you do waive that?

Mr. Newnam.

I do; yes; absolutely.

Mr. Hubert.

Will you rise so that I may administer the oath, please? Do you solemnly swear the testimony you are about to give in this matter will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Newnam.

I do.

Mr. Hubert.

Will you state your full name, sir?

Mr. Newnam.

John Wilkins Newnam.

Mr. Hubert.

Where do you reside, sir?

Mr. Newnam.

3124 Kingston.

Mr. Hubert.

How old are you?

Mr. Newnam.

Forty-three.

Mr. Hubert.

What is your occupation?

Mr. Newnam.

Advertising salesman.

Mr. Hubert.

With what organization?

Mr. Newnam.

Dallas Morning News.

Mr. Hubert.

How long have you been so occupied ?

Mr. Newnam.

With the News totally?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Newnam.

Since 1936--January, I believe, of 1936--that's 1946-56, that's about 28 years now.

Mr. Hubert.

I suppose that's about the only job you've held in your life?

Mr. Newnam.

That's the only job I've had--yes, sir; and in the various departments.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you have any official capacity as an officer or something of that sort?

Mr. Newnam.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Mr. Newnam, I want to show you a document which I have marked for identification as follows: "Dallas, Texas, June 26, 1964, Exhibit No. 4, Deposition of John Newnam." I have signed my name below that language and I ask you if you have not signed your name below my name?

Mr. Newnam.

I have, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Mr. Newnam, this purports to be a chart of the second floor of the building occupied by the Dallas Morning News and particularly occupied by-.the advertising and promotion departments of that newspaper; is that correct?

Mr. Newnam.

This is correct; yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you draw this yourself?

Mr. Newnam.

I did.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, I would like you to take this document and first of all, holding it in an upright position so that your signature and mine are upright