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(Testimony of William Glenn , Jr. Duncan)
Mr. Hubert.
that now you have this very definite hinge point, as it were, that Ruby was there when you made a 2 a.m. broadcast and perhaps you did not remember that on the 28th when you told the agents that?
Mr. Duncan.
This could very well be.
Mr. Hubert.
Otherwise, the document is all right, that is to say, Exhibit No. 1?
Mr. Duncan.
Yes; it is.
Mr. Hubert.
Now, I have also handed to you and I think you have read it, a document purporting to be the transcription of your testimony at the Ruby trial, consisting of a number of pages, beginning apparently at page 52 and ending on page 67. I have marked this group of papers for identification as follows: On the first page I have put in the right-hand margin--"Dallas, Texas, June 26, 1964, Exhibit No. 2, Deposition of Glenn Duncan" and I have signed my name below that and on each of the succeeding pages I have put my initials in the lower right-hand corner, and I ask you if you have read this transcription of your testimony, and if you have any comment to make upon it?
Mr. Duncan.
I have read it and it is correct in total. I have marked on one page--
Mr. Hubert.
Page 64?
Mr. Duncan.
Yes--page 64---and this concerns the part of the testimony where I was being cross-examined by Mr. Belli and he asks me, paraphrasing, if after Ruby had seen Oswald, did Ruby seem pleased, satisfied-- that he had seen this character, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera--I have an addition to make.
I can remember now one particular incidence and this came to mind after the trial. We talked for a few minutes on Oswald himself, his appearance and so forth, and I remember, I believe Ruby brought it up, that he was--to the effect--actually a fairly nice looking kid. We talked about how he would normally--could pass off as a college student somewhere, and he connection was brought up to a vague resemblance between Oswald and Paul Newman, the movie star. This is about the only addition that I could make to that.
Mr. Hubert.
He was describing Oswald as he said he had seen him that night, wasn't he?
Mr. Duncan.
Yes; that's correct.
Mr. Hubert.
At a press conference?
Mr. Duncan.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Did he comment upon how he happened to be there?
Mr. Duncan.
Yes, he did. He said he had come to the front door of our studio with the sandwiches and cola and so forth that I have mentioned elsewhere in that testimony, and had tried to get in---the door was locked, and because of the long distance between the flight of stairs and the studio, no one heard him, and he said he went over the the city hall, the police department, Dallas City Hall, to try to find one of our newsmen to either give the sandwiches to him or let him in. While he was there, he said there was all of a sudden a lot of commotion, people. running around, and he said he was caught up in the rush and before he knew it he was in an assembly room, being pushed by everybody and standing there with his big bag of sandwiches and everything, and looking up at Oswald, and he said this was when Oswald v as brought out to be seen by the press after he had been charged that night.
Mr. Hubert.
Is it your impression that he w s trying to convey to you that he get into that room more or less by accident by being brushed along and not by design?
Mr. Duncan.
Yes; exactly. This was the whole point or one of the points that he was making--the fact that he hadn't even known it was going to happen, and suddenly he was pushed along. He didn't know what the rush was all about until he w s in there surrounded by everybody.
Mr. Hubert.
So he was conveying to you that he got into the assembly room just by a sort of an accidental method and he did not get there because he sought to get there?
Mr. Duncan.
Right. His exact words, I don't remember, but the inference was very definitely accidental and not attempting to get in.
Mr. Hubert.
You didn't know Jack Ruby prior to this, did you?
Mr. Duncan.
No, I did net--it was the first time actually I had ever even heard of him--was when I was introduced to him on the telephone that night.
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