Mr. Benton.

head. I have no further details." His statement was a little more complete. I think he said. President John F. Kennedy.

Mr. Hubert.

At approximately what time was that?

Mr. Benton.

Right at 1:30 central standard time.

Mr. Hubert.

Can you fix that by reason of some event that stays in your memory?

Mr. Benton.

I looked at my watch and tried to compute the time, or was looking to see how fast we had been advised.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you been told previous to the announcement by Mr. Kilduff that there would be an announcement and to congregate at that time and place or how did it happen?

Mr. Benton.

Someone suggested we congregate there. A Wayne Hawks, who is a White House aide, a civil service person, he suggested we all move up there. There had been a large number of people congregated around the emergency entrance.

Mr. Hubert.

And that suggestion by Mr. Hawks was made at what time?

Mr. Benton.

I can only say between--some time between 1 p.m. and 1:30. I don't know exactly.

Mr. Hubert.

But it was after you had spoken to Senator Yarborough?

Mr. Benton.

That's correct. Senator Yarborough was the first person that I spoke to when I arrived at the hospital.

Mr. Hubert.

And that was 1 o'clock, you said, approximately?

Mr. Benton.

I can only guess. Approximately 1 o'clock.

Mr. Hubert.

Then you went across to the nurses' home to make your telephone call and came back and it was after that the announcement was made to congregate? Perhaps we can approach it this way: Do you remember how long you had been in the room, after the announcement by Mr. Hawks?

Mr. Benton.

Not very long. I would say 10 minutes.

Mr. Hubert.

So that backing off of 1:30, it would be fair to say Mr. Hawks must have announced that the correspondents should collect about 1:20 or somewhere--

Mr. Benton.

Mr. Hawks did not say gather at any time. I just recall his saying: let's go up. We set up a pressroom. Something to that effect.

Mr. Hubert.

And that would have been about 1:20 or some time--

Mr. Benton.

I would guess; yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, after you left Parkland Memorial, where did you go?

Mr. Benton.

I went to the jail.

Mr. Hubert.

And then after that, where did you go?

Mr. Benton.

I think I returned to KRLD.

Mr. Hubert.

At what time did you first go to the Dallas City Jail Building?

Mr. Benton.

It was some time in the evening of Friday, the 22d.

Mr. Hubert.

You were not there in the afternoon at all?

Mr. Benton.

I was not there in the afternoon when the arrest--

Mr. Hubert.

When you say evening, of course, you mean after nightfall?

Mr. Benton.

I would guess around 7 or 8 o'clock in the evening.

Mr. Hubert.

How long did you stay?

Mr. Benton.

I stayed until after midnight.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, did you see Jack Ruby at any time during the period you have just stated, from 8 to midnight, on the night of the 22d at the Dallas City Police Jail?

Mr. Benton.

I did.

Mr. Hubert.

You did not know him at the time, is that correct?

Mr. Benton.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

How do you associate the man you now know to be Ruby as a man that you saw?

Mr. Benton.

Because of something he said. Well, I told the FBI the man was wearing a white on white shirt, and we I hadn't seen many wearing white on white shirts. It was--

Mr. Hubert.

You mean a white tie on a white shirt?

Mr. Benton.

No; I mean a white shirt with white figures embroidered--what appeared to be embroidered figures in the shirt. I noticed him because of something he said to District Attorney Wade, I believe it was. Wade was discussing