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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XV - Page 437« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Kenneth Lawry Dowe)

Mr. Down.
were misconstrued or they didn't understand probably, or I didn't understand the question.
Mr. Griffin.
Let me ask you. then. to go through it and read the portion that you feel is inaccurate, and then make any improvements upon that portion that you want to.
Mr. Dowe.
In the first paragraph, it says, "Dowe advised he had never visited Ruby's nightclub and had never personally seen Ruby since that time."
I don't recall being asked any question like that. As a matter of fact, there was one occasion when I was in Dallas before, about 2 days before I left to go to Atlanta. Some friends took my wife and me out to dinner, and as a joke, we went to see one of the girlie shows, because my wife had never been there.
And we found out later, upon reminiscing, it was the Carousel, which was Jack Ruby's, so I have been there at one time.
It says, "He also advised he has never seen Ruby on the premises of the radio station KLIF since the occasion he was introduced to him." That is true. I saw him that one time.

Now, down to paragraph 4, it says, "During this period, Ruby called the station on three occasions. However, it is Dowe's impression that Ruby identified himself by name on only the last two calls."
I don't know whether he identified himself as Jack Ruby the first time, or whether it was the last two times.
And another thing that I have stressed in each interview is the fact that I don't know whether he made two or three telephone calls, and it repeatedly says three telephone calls in his testimony. And that is only---I am just guessing. Two or three, I don't know.
Over on what is page No. 39 it says, "It is Dowe's recollection that on the occasion of the second call, Ruby inquired as to whether any of the newmen from Station KLIF were in the vicinity of the Dallas City Hall, and on this occasion that the caller identified himself as Jack Ruby.
That is pinning it down an awful lot. I don't recall that I remember that much about it, really.
I advised the name Jack Ruby meant nothing to me, and inquired of some other employee of the station, who at this time I do not now recall.
I wasn't asked that, but I do recall Gary DeLaune is the employee I asked the question, "Who is Jack Ruby?"
Mr. Griffin.
Incidentally, how does DeLaune spell his name?
Mr. Dowe.
Actually, DeLaune is only the name he uses on the air. I don't remember his real last name.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you know how it is spelled?
Mr. Dowe.
I don't know either. He is an entirely different department and he is usually in a mobile news unit, and I rarely see him, and I have never taken .it upon myself to know what his last name is.
I might remember it tomorrow or something. I have seen it. It is vaguely familiar. I would know if I saw it, but I have forgotten. It is different. It is not a common name.
Then I see down here on also the same page that the telephone number of the hot line at that time was Riverside 7-9319, which I remember it was. It is not that any longer.
Also, this is something that I gave you at the same time in the interview today, that may have been incorrect, because I remember now, as stated here in this paragraph: "Dowe advised that on Friday, November 22, 1963, it is his present recollection he would have been on duty as an announcer at the station 3 to 7 p.m., and being a new employee, he was present at the radio station from approximately 10 a.m. to at least 7:30 a.m.
This being true, I gave you a statement earlier that I was on my way to the radio station, and I thought it was about 10 after 1, because usually that is the time that I go in. Now, I don't remember if it was 10 after 10 or 10 after 1 but as I recall this minute, today, it was more likely 10 after 1. I don't even know what time the President was shot. I have no statistics in my head. I can't remember which was which now. It's gotten entirely too involved.
Down in. the last paragraph it says, "Information previously furnished by them was possibly misleading regarding the number of visits by Jack Ruby in
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