Mrs. Powell.

She called me that day that it happened, sometime during the time.

Mr. Griffin.

What did she have to say?

Mrs. Powell.

I am not even sure that it was Lynn; whether it was Lynn or Bruce. I don't know. Just the same thing everybody was saying, "Did you know that Jack did this, and what do you think about it?" You know; what everybody asked.

Mr. Griffin.

Did she mention anything to you about having talked with him that morning?

Mrs. Powell.

No; I don't believe so. Gosh, it was so hard to remember, because so much happened in just such a short time, and being so involved like right here it is, it is hard to remember all those things.

Mr. Griffin.

Try to remember a little harder.

Mrs. Powell.

What do you want me to remember?

Mr. Griffin.

What she said in the conversation.

Mrs. Powell.

Well, I don't know. Something like, "Did you see Jack, or did you know Jack shot Oswald, or did you see him on TV," or something. And I said, "Yes"; like, "What do you think about it," or something. I am trying to remember something that happened on Saturday night. I knew that something was terribly wrong with Jack that Saturday.

Mr. Griffin.

How did you know that?

Mrs. Powell.

Because he wouldn't close the club down for any reason at all, and he was very upset. I don't remember now, but I remember making a statement to Bruce and Lynn on the way home that I didn't know what he was up to, but he was up to something. I remember making that statement, because I know him like a book. But I had no idea. I had no idea that this was the thing he was going to do, but I just knew he was going to do something. But we were discussing it on the way back. But what I thought maybe he was going to do, a lot of people figured when this thing happened that the Kennedys were going to come down and close this town up completely, you know, so we figured that, well, that is the only thing.
I figured that maybe Jack was afraid that he might be closed up or something, so he was going to stay closed until after the funeral, or something like that. But I just knew he was going to do something.

Mr. Griffin.

What was it that you had heard that he had said or done that made you feel that way?

Mrs. Powell.

Nothing; whenever Lynn spoke to him on the phone and when she came back and told us what he had said, and then he was real upset, but the thing that made me think that is because Jack would not close down. We begged and begged him to let us off Christmas or Christmas Day, and there was no way he was going to do it. Ralph said he wouldn't close the club down for anything.

Mr. Griffin.

He stayed open on Christmas Eve and Christmas night?

Mrs. Powell.

No; Ralph told him to close one day. I forget--it was more than two. We closed one or the two. I think it was Christmas Eve when he closed. Yes; it was Christmas Eve when we were closed. But I just knew he was up to something, but in my wildest imagination I didn't dream he would do that. But I figured he had some reason for closing up that way. I was just shocked too, because I happened to remember making that statement to Lynn.

Mr. Griffin.

What did Lynn say?

Mrs. Powell.

I don't recall that she said anything. I know we were just discussing it in general.

Mr. Griffin.

What about Bruce?

Mrs. Powell.

Bruce agreed with me that he figured that Jack was up to something.

Mr. Griffin.

What sort of guy is Bruce?

Mrs. Powell.

I don't like him.

Mr. Griffin.

Why is that?

Mrs. Powell.

Because he comes on like a junior jiver with a bunch of this hip talk "Man," and this stuff, and I don't like this. And he doesn't work, and Lynn was pregnant, and he beat her up all the time.

Mr. Griffin.

Was he living off her?