Mr. Griffin.

How long a time elapsed between the time you saw Ruby and when you left the hospital?

Mrs. Tice.

I don't know, but it takes me approximately 15 minutes.

Mr. Griffin.

As soon as that man left, Ruby, did you go home?

Mrs. Tice.

I just moseyed. I didn't take off at a running hop or anything, but I kept looking and I didn't see nothing.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you wait as long as an hour after you saw Ruby before you left?

Mrs. Tice.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

AS long as a half-hour?

Mrs. Tice.

No; whenever I started to get out, there was cars coming in there, and I guess it probably took me 5 minutes to get out of that parking lot, by the time I walked back up to here and got back in the car.

Mr. Griffin.

What is your best estimate of when you got home?

Mrs. Tice.

Well, the children got home from school at 3 o'clock or 2:45. They get out 10 minutes till 3. I was home at 3 o'clock; I was home when the children got there. Well, it may have been 5 or 10 minutes after 3, because I was there before the children came in.

Mr. Griffin.

How long were you there before the children arrived?

Mrs. Tice.

I just got there, but I was home.

Mr. Griffin.

I am going to mark this diagram which you have drawn here I am going to put this emergency entrance up where you have indicated it was, and I am going to mark this "Wilma Tice Deposition, July 24, 1964, Exhibit No. 1".

Mrs. Tice.

Well, now, you know Eva told me she says, "Well, but Wilma, you could be mistaken, because you know people look different on television than they do in person." I said, "Yes, I realize that is true."

Mr. Griffin.

You think you might be mistaken, or don't you?

Mrs. Tice.

No; I said I thought it was either him or his twin brother.

Mr. Griffin.

You still feel that way?

Mrs. Tice.

I still feel that way.

Mr. Griffin.

But you have only seen him on television?

Mrs. Tice.

That's right, and that time out there is the only time I have ever seen him.

Mr. Griffin.

How about pictures in the newspaper, do they look the same as what you remember the man looked like at Parkland Hospital?

Mrs. Tice.

They didn't look as much like him as the one that Eva or Eileen brought to the house and showed to me. I mean, looked more like him.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, Mrs. Tice, I only ask you if you will sign this exhibit with your signature.
(Mrs. Tice signs.)

Mr. Griffin.

I want to ask one other question. That is, there was a newspaper report that you received a threat of some sort before you came here. Do you know anything about that?

Mrs. Tice.

Do I know anything about it?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes; did you receive a threat before coming here?

Mrs. Tice.

Well, I don't know if it was a threat or I don't know now--I don't know what you are talking about. Are you talking about when I was barricaded in the house?

Mr. Griffin.

No; I don't know about that. I was just informed by somebody here in this U.S. attorney's office that one of the daily newspapers here had carried an article that you had been threatened. Do you know anything about that?

Mrs. Tice.

They said that I had been threatened, but what the paper said is not what--I got a telephone call, and some man told me on the telephone that it would pay me to keep my mouth shut.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you recognize the voice on the telephone?

Mrs. Tice.

I never heard that voice before in my life, that I know of.

Mr. Griffin.

At the time you got that telephone call, did your husband know that you were supposed to come to testify?

Mrs. Tice.

Yes; he knew I got this letter Sunday. He was coming home with the children. He went down to pick up the children at Sunday School and