Mr. Robertson.

I am not sure I can give even an approximate date.Considerably prior to February of 1963, but how much before, I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

How many times had you seen him before February of 1963?

Mr. Robertson.

Perhaps a dozen or two.

Mr. Griffin.

How had it been that you had seen him on those various occasions?

Mr. Robertson.

One of the men who had been working for our station had an interest in one of the girls who was working in Jack's club.

Mr. Griffin.

Which girl was that?

Mr. Robertson.

I don't remember her name.

Mr. Griffin.

Which employee was that?

Mr. Robertson.

She was one of the girls who, I guess, "danced" for Jack.
All I can remember about her is that she had at one time worked for Lone Star Cadillac and she quit there and went to work for Jack.

Mr. Griffin.

What was the name of the employee who was interested?

Mr. Robertson.

Murphy Martin.

Mr. Griffin.

Was he employed at the radio station in November?

Mr. Robertson.

Yes. He was working for us as our primary newscaster until February of 1963 when he went with the American Broadcasting Co. in New York.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he leave Dallas in 1963?

Mr. Robertson.

He left; yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Had you visited the Carousel with him?

Mr. Robertson.

That's right. There were several of us that used to go up there in a group.

Mr. Griffin.

After February of 1963, did you have occasion to see Jack Ruby?

Mr. Robertson.

Yes. Not frequently. I would see him on the street or up at the city hall or something like that.

Mr. Griffin.

Is there anybody that you have confused with Jack Ruby?

Mr. Robertson.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Let me ask you, where were you when you first heard that President Kennedy had been shot?

Mr. Robertson.

In the phone booth in .the Adolphus Hotel.

Mr. Griffin.

About what time of the day was that?

Mr. Robertson.

It must have been immediately afterward. I had called the station. One of the men in the news room, John Allen, answered the phone, and I told him where I was, and he said, "My God, he's been hit." So far as I know, the phone is still hanging there.

Mr. Griffin.

What did you do after that?

Mr. Robertson.

I took off on a dead run down Main Street to the Depository.

Mr. Griffin.

How long did you remain at the Depository?

Mr. Robertson.

Until the call came over the police radio about the officer having been shot.

Mr. Griffin.

Then where did you go?

Mr. Robertson.

I went out there.

Mr. Griffin.

Who did you go out with?

Mr. Robertson.

I drove out with Ron Reiland and Hugh Aynesworth of the Dallas Morning News.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you driving the automobile?

Mr. Robertson.

No; Ron drove.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you go out to the scene where Tippit had been shot?

Mr. Robertson.

That's right.

Mr. Griffin.

When you arrived out there, what did you find?

Mr. Robertson.

Perhaps I should correct that. Actually, we went first to a location on West--no; East Jefferson Avenue, not quite opposite the Dudley Hughes Funeral Home where the man who shot Tippit was believed to be in the building. This was approximately a block and a half from the site where Tippit was shot. Then we went to the site where he had been found, and from there to the Texas Theatre.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you arrive at the Texas Theatre before Oswald was brought out?

Mr. Robertson.

Yes.