Mr. Griffin.

When were you born?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

July 11, 1917.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you born here in Chicago?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Are you the youngest child in the family?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

Right.

Mr. Griffin.

And you have seven brothers and sisters; is that correct?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

Yes; four brothers and three sisters.

Mr. Griffin.

Can you tell us when you were married?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

Yes; October 26, 1947.

Mr. Griffin.

And have you lived in Chicago all your life?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

All my life.

Mr. Griffin.

I am going to ask you a few questions at the outset about your family and I don't know how much information you have on the subject since you are the youngest in the family, but you may--

Mrs. Kaminsky.

Yes; I found that out. I didn't know so much.

Mr. Griffin.

I presume that as a child and as an adult, you had occasion to talk to your mother and father about their background. Do you know, or have you heard in that fashion where your mother was born?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

You know, I--it is a town in either Poland or Russia but I can't think of it. My mother has been gone 20 years, and we never really did talk that much, although I know I have heard the town.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know how many brothers or sisters your mother had?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

No; I don't--I really don't.

Mr. Griffin.

How about your father; do you know how many brothers or sisters he had?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

Well, he had one brother who passed away a few years ago. That was the only one I knew of, and my mother had--she did have a brother who just passed away a couple years ago, too; however, I don't know--I know she had a half- or step-sister at one time. As a matter of fact, she is still---one of the daughters of that half-sister is still living.

Mr. Griffin.

Yes. What was the half-sister's name?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

Well, in Jewish--I didn't even know the English.

Mr. Griffin.

What would that be in Jewish?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

Hysura.

Mr. Griffin.

How would you spell that?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

Where did they live?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

Well, when I---I don't even remember her, it's so many years ago, even when my mother says--she was in her fifties. This woman I think was already in her eighties or something, you know.

Mr. Griffin.

Yes. Well, did your mother ever explain to you how she happened to have a half-sister?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

If she did, I don't remember. I don't really think we--at least, I never went into it too much.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you ever have any information about what your mother's father did, your maternal grandfather?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

Well, there was some story that my mother's mother was supposed to have been some sort of doctor. In those days, I don't know what they considered a doctor, you know.

Mr. Griffin.

Who was supposed to have been the doctor--

Mrs. Kaminsky.

I don't--

Mr. Griffin.

Your mother's father or your mother's mother?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

I don't know. I don't know. [My maternal grandmother was supposed to have been the doctor.]

Mr. Griffin.

Yes. Did your mother talk about these things?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

Not too much. One of my sisters, or a couple of them, used to talk about it once in a while, but never a--not very often.

Mr. Griffin.

Well now, you were born in 1917?

Mrs. Kaminsky.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

And there came a time about 1921 when your family broke up. What became of you when Jack was put in a foster home?