Mr. Griffin.

You said more consideration.

Mr. Johnson.

I had a chance to use some of my ideas. They more or less had things fixed where I couldn't use my imagination, how I wanted to sell and so forth publicitywise, and I got better publicity and so forth.

Mr. Griffin.

How was it that you were restricted at the Vegas Club?

Mr. Johnson.

Well, more or less they won't do anything to make the club look decent, where I would invite people out that I felt were special guests, and I Just felt like this other club was better equipped, but I wouldn't mind inviting anyone out there. And I had been at the Vegas Club, and he continued to say, "We are going to do this," and they never would get around to it.

Mr. Griffin.

What sort of things?

Mr. Johnson.

I mean like fixing up the club and making it look decent. In fact, it looked the same way it did when I first moved there.

Mr. Griffin.

How much of your dealings were with Jack Ruby, and how much of them were with his sister, Eva Grant?

Mr. Johnson.

Let's see; I believe since 1959, all of my dealings were with his sister and not with him. Before then, it was all with him, because she wasn't in town. She came in from, I don't know, California, I believe.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, do you know that his sister was operated on in November?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Did that operation take place while you were still working for her?

Mr. Johnson.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you see Jack Ruby get in any fights while you worked for him?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Can you tell us about some of those?

Mr. Johnson.

Well, it was just about some of the people that would come to the club that would get in trouble, and he just, you know, wouldn't hardly stand for that in his club.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you know George Senator?

Mr. Johnson.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you know Ralph Paul?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you know Tammi True?

Mr. Johnson.

Not personally, but I mean I had worked on shows with them. They used to have shows at the Vegas Club, and she had worked some of the shows over there.

Mr. Griffin.

Jack put on a striptease show at the Vegas Club?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

How often would he have those shows?

Mr. Johnson.

They used to have them every Friday night, but some time last year, maybe around August or something like that, something happened that they discontinued them.

Mr. Griffin.

When did he start having ,the striptease shows?

Mr. Johnson.

I don't remember, ,but several years ago.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he have striptease shows at the Vegas Club before he opened the Carousel Club?

Mr. Johnson.

I don't think so. I don',t remember for sure.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you know another of his striptease dancers, Kathy Kay?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes; I have heard the name. It is familiar; yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you know a policeman named Harry Olsen?

Mr. Johnson.

Not by name. I don't remember that name.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know Ruby's dancer, Little Lynn?

Mr. Johnson.

No; that name doesn't register.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you see Jack Ruby at all on November 22 or 23, the Friday that the President was shot, and the Saturday afterward?

Mr. Johnson.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you see any of his friends or employees over that weekend?

Mr. Johnson.

Not that I recall; nobody that would be close to him, I would say. Maybe some of his friends, but offhand, I don't remember.

Mr. Griffin.

But not Ralph Paul or George Senator or Tammi True?