Mr. Griffin.

I don't want you to be a psychiatrist, but in lay terms, what was the difficulty?

Mr. Palmer.

Well, she was associated with a young gentleman more nearly her age who was eager to have her accumulate wealth. What he did to achieve this, I don't know. I can only assume.
I believe she thought herself pregnant, or was. I had no proof whether she was or not. I did see her have convulsions and spasms that I had seen before and realized that this was more a nervous condition that often precedes pregnancy, but this seemed to be to me, again, as I say, a little more of an emotional thing rather than a physiological thing.

Mr. Griffin.

You didn't have any indication that she was taking narcotics?

Mr. Palmer.

I had none. I have none at the present time. By narcotics, I don't know what you mean. Some of the entertainers, the girls have weight problems and often they are on a, I don't know what the pill is, it is a black thing that doctors prescribe. I have seen several eating them, that I know of them.

Mr. Griffin.

They are habit forming?

Mr. Palmer.

I don't know. I believe they are. I don't know what they are. A friend of mine in a different business is the one that described them to me.

Mr. Griffin.

What was Little Lynn's boyfriend or husband or whatever he is attempting to do for her?

Mr. Palmer.

I had that feeling. I had no proof of that.

Mr. Griffin.

Anything else that you think he was attempting to do?

Mr. Palmer.

Not that I am aware of, no. I thought that was what it was, plus having her in a club where he could call as her manager and probably circulate and pander for her.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you happen to know why Tammi True quit working for Jack Ruby shortly before the President was assassinated?

Mr. Palmer.

She quit several times before. Again, Tammi was quite critical of Jack's bookkeeping and frequently overstepped her boundaries as an employee because of her association with Mr. Paul, I believe, at that time. She was living with him off and on.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you have occasion to visit any of the night clubs on November 22 or November 23?

Mr. Palmer.

Could you give me the days of the week?

Mr. Griffin.

Well, this would be the Friday night after the President was assassinated, and the Saturday night.

Mr. Palmer.

I would have to look at the records at AGVA. I believe I did.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall whether you were in Abe's Colony Club or the Theatre Lounge on one of those nights?

Mr. Palmer.

I probably was. I usually made those clubs as I came downtown. I don't recall specifically though.

Mr. Griffin.

Specifically, do you have any specific recollection as to whether those clubs were open on any one of those nights?

Mr. Palmer.

Let's see, President was assassinated on what?

Mr. Griffin.

Friday.

Mr. Palmer.

Friday. All the clubs were closed on Friday night.

Mr. Griffin.

How about Saturday?

Mr. Palmer.

There was some---actually, the two clubs, Colony Club and the Theatre Lounge closed, and I think there was some doubt as to whether Ruby's would close, and I had to determine that. I believe Ruby was closed until the following Monday. I am not certain.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you have any recollection of being in the Colony Club or Theatre Lounge on 'Saturday night?

Mr. Palmer.

No, I don't; I am sorry.

Mr. Griffin.

I don't believe I have any more questions. Is there anything-that you can think of that the Commission ought to know either about Ruby or-about the murder of Oswald, or about the assassination of the President, that you might want to offer independently of any questions that I have asked you?

Mr. Palmer.

I suppose my other statements are available to you?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes. It is customary that we give you these to look at to sign, but I am afraid that it didn't get included in the group of things that I brought with me from Washington, so I don't have them to hand to you. I have one short