Mrs. Richey.

I remember that I talked to Andrew but I don't remember if I talked to someone else before. Okay.

Mr. Griffin.

How did you first learn that the clubs were going to be closed?

Mrs. Richey.

Well, I must have talked to Andrew two or three times that day because he didn't know for sure or not. No, that wasn't right; or was it. Wait, I've got to think a minute.

Mr. Griffin.

Take your time.

Mrs. Richey.

I talked to Jack the night before he killed Lee Harvey Oswald. I talked to Jack over the phone, and he told me that the clubs were going to be closed, but I thought it was on a Saturday night. Didn't he kill Oswald on a Sunday?

Mr. Griffin.

That is right.

Mrs. Richey.

Well, I can't remember now. I told the FBI and they know the real date and I can't even remember right now if it was Friday night or Saturday night that I talked to him?

Mr. Griffin.

You indicate on the 26th of November when you talked with the FBI that you talked to Ruby around noon on Saturday, the 23d.

Mrs. Richey.

That is the day after the President was shot, so that was Saturday.

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mrs. Richey.

So that is right. I talked to him the day before. But I don't think it was noon and I don't think I told him it was noon. It seems like it was later in the evening. It may not have been. I can't really remember.

Mr. Griffin.

Let's think about Friday. I am trying to get at what you might have learned about the clubs on Friday. Did you go to work on Friday?

Mrs. Richey.

I don't remember that either.

Mr. Griffin.

What did you do the evening that the President was shot?

Mrs. Richey.

No, we were closed; yes, because we were closed on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

Mr. Richey.

If I can help, you called me. You had called me.

Mrs. Richey.

On the Friday? I am sure now. I almost positive that we were closed on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, because everything else was closed. I am pretty sure that they were closed.

Mr. Griffin.

Your husband suggested that you called him sometime?

Mrs. Richey.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

On Friday. What do you remember about that telephone conversation?

Mrs. Richey.

Nothing. I mean he was watching television. No, did I call you then? Are you sure?

Mr. Richey.

You called me late Friday afternoon.

Mrs. Richey.

I don't remember that either. I remember talking to you when Jack shot Lee Oswald. I am sorry.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you have any recollection whether on Friday you knew that the clubs were going to be closed for all 3 days?

Mrs. Richey.

I am pretty sure. No, our club was going to be closed. If I am not mistaken they were closed on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

Mr. Griffin.

When did you first learn that it was going to be closed for 3 days?

Mrs. Richey.

I think Andrew must have called me Friday and told me that we were going to close that night, and then the next day I called him to find out. It seems like that is the way it was, that I called him to find out if we were going to work and he told me to call Jack and I called Jack and Jack told me that we were going to be closed Saturday and Sunday. If I am not mistaken that is the way it was.

Mr. Griffin.

Where did you call Jack?

Mrs. Richey.

At his apartment.

Mr. Griffin.

And you have indicated that you think it was sometime other than noon?

Mrs. Richey.

I can't be real sure. To me right now it seems like that it was later than noon. It may not have been. I am not real sure.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you think your recollection on the 26th of November about it would have been better than it is now?