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(Testimony of Cecil E. Talbert)
Mr. Hubert.
Captain TALBERT. That is what I had reference to; yes, sir. And this rushing newspaperman, I am sure it is probably my poor English semantics.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you know how the press knew that the route would be through the basement area there?
Captain TALBERT. Sorry, sir; I didn't hear your question.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you know how the news people knew that the route would be through the basement area?
Captain TALBERT. No, sir. May I back up? When you say how the route would be, you mean whether it would be from the jail office elevator, or from the other elevator?
Mr. Hubert.
Or from any other way.
Captain TALBERT. No, sir; I have no idea.
Mr. Hubert.
It was apparent, though, that it would be that way, from the general setup of things?
Captain TALBERT. The normal procedure would have been that way; yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
You mean on that morning, the fact of the arrangement of the cameras and bringing up of the armored truck and so forth would have indicated that?
Captain TALBERT. Yes; it would have indicated it.
Mr. Hubert.
I believe that is all, Captain Talbert, unless there is something you wish to say.
Captain TALBERT. Can we get off the record and ask you a question?
Mr. Hubert.
Yes; we have to put it back on the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. Hubert.
You have brought up a point that you said you wished clarified, and it was to this effect. You stated to me during the off-the-record discussion that while you were at the hospital, Captain Fritz came to you and asked you whether or not you had told him to come ahead, at which time you said to him, "Yes." You say to me now that what you had in mind when you told him "Yes," that you had said to him "Come on ahead" was an earlier conversation or telephone call that you had had with Captain Fritz, and not the come- ahead signal just prior to the Oswald movement.
Captain TALBERT. Actually, the earlier call was to Fritz' office, and I talked to a Detective Beck. Captain Fritz was interrogating the prisoner and couldn't answer the phone, so I told Detective Beck to pass on the information to him that the basement had been searched. Whether he ever received that information or not, I don't know.
Mr. Hubert.
It is your understanding now that Captain Fritz thought when you told him "Yes" at the hospital, that you had given the all-clear signal, you thought he was referring to the telephone call?
Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
But apparently he thought you were referring to an all-clear signal just prior to the exit of Oswald from the jail?
Captain TALBERT. From the jail elevator; yes.
Mr. Hubert.
To get the whole matter straight, your point is you did not give an all-clear signal to Captain Fritz just before Oswald was brought out of the jail, is that correct?
Captain TALBERT. That is quite true. I was out in the driveway and didn't know Oswald was down myself. Lieutenant Wiggins has given a deposition clarifying his asking about it coming off of the elevator, but I thought if a conflict arose in Captain Fritz' deposition, this possibly would clear it up.
Mr. Hubert.
What you have told us just now, does it cover everything you told me off the record?
Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
All right, sir; is there anything else?
Captain TALBERT. It's been a pleasure talking to you.
Mr. Hubert.
Then I will just ask you this general question. Has everything that we have talked about this morning been covered in the record in one way or another?
Captain TALBERT. Yes; it has.
Mr. Hubert.
All right, sir; thank you very much. I appreciate your coming down again.
Marjorie R. Richey
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