Mr. Crull.

I think that phrase should be stricken, because it is not my phrase. I don't recall it, and it is not one I would use normally. I think someone has attempted to portray what I thought of the individual, has injected his phrase.

Mr. Hubert.

I guess to get the story complete, since you wish to delete the specific phrase, it might be a good idea for you to tell us what was your impression of him, in your own words.

Mr. Crull.

The publisher of this local newspaper is careless with facts, and is inclined toward the sensational. And quite frankly, says he does it deliberately in order to sell newspapers.

Mr. Hubert.

I notice that a little further down in this same paragraph there is a statement attributed to you by virtue of the fact that it in direct quotes says as follows: "I can't sell newspapers by telling the truth." Which according to this report, the FBI says you stated with regard to that interview.

Mr. Crull.

That is accurate.

Mr. Hubert.

Now I see no other marks indicating that you wish to comment upon any other part of Exhibit No. 1, so is it a fact then, that other than the corrections that have been made, it is your opinion that Exhibit No. I represents a true and faithful record of the interview?

Mr. Crull.

With the exceptions, I think it is accurate.

Mr. Hubert.

Now while we were on the subject of this statement which had appeared in the Oak Cliff Tribune with reference to the pressure being brought upon Chief Curry in regard to his relationship with the press, I would like for you, if you wish, to comment upon what role you played with reference to the

matter of control of the press and the whole situation involving the press?

Mr. Crull.

I need some explanation. Over what period of time?

Mr. Hubert.

I am talking about the period of time from November the 22d, after the President was shot, until the 24th or 25th of November.

Mr. Crull.

After the President was shot, for quite some time I was at the control station at the site of the luncheon. When I finally returned to the city hall, I believed I reached there before the chief did--I went to my own office, and I can't say how long, later went across to the police department, which is in an adjoining building.

Mr. Hubert.

But there is a corridor?

Mr. Crull.

Yes; at that time the press had almost taken over. These were the visiting press. Our local press had been pushed off to one side, and the visitors who had made the trip here with the press, plus the television people, had flooded the third-floor corridors.
The chief's office---the television people had opened the switchboard on the corridor and their technicians had attached their equipment to the electrical system, ,and they were pretty well set up. I do not know, ,but I assume that all this happened while all the top men in the department .were out on the job. There was no reason for top-level people being in the police department headquarters during the time of the Kennedy visit. They each had other assignments.

Mr. Hubert.

When you went there and saw the condition you just described, what time was it, about?

Mr. Crull.

I guess I would say it was about 3:30 in the afternoon.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you see any of the top officers of the police department there on the third floor when you arrived?

Mr. Crull.

I can't remember specifically. Later that afternoon, I talked to Chief Curry when he did return.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did that conversation take place?

Mr. Crull.

In his office in the police department.

Mr. Hubert.

How long after your return?

Mr. Crull.

I guess this was 30 or 40 minutes. About 4 o'clock in the afternoon.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you left the building and gone back?

Mr. Crull.

I had gone back to my office and come. back again. He had been to the airport with the President's body.. At that time Chief Curry discussed the condition of things with the press, and I agreed with him that we would continue our policy of trying to cooperate with the press.