Mr. Crowe.

A couple of days I know of.

Mr. Hubert.

You had not met her before?

Mr. Crowe.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, prior to the President's visit to Dallas, do you recall having either discussed with Ruby the forthcoming visit or heard Ruby say anything concerning it?

Mr. Crowe.

No; and the time I had known him I had never recalled ever having heard him discuss politics or anybody in it.

Mr. Hubert.

That means over this 2 or 3 years you knew him?

Mr. Crowe.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Mr. Hubert, if I can ask a question here.

Mr. Hubert.

Let me finish this phase o£ the questioning. What was the general format of the show during the period from November 11 until the 22d, I believe. Will you describe to us briefly just how it operated, and what went on?

Mr. Crowe.

Well, I came on stage and opened the show.

Mr. Hubert.

Was there any kind of opening music, for instance?

Mr. Crowe.

I think we tried a show tune song but I never could sing so didn't do it. I always backed out every time I got on stage, I wouldn't do it. I would start into it maybe and then I would quit and fade out or something, I would chicken out.

Mr. Hubert.

What about the band, did the band play any particular type of music to start off the show or to end it?

Mr. Crowe.

Particular? Just, you know, introduction music.

Mr. Hubert.

Specifically, did they play any type of patriotic music?

Mr. Crowe.

Patriotic music?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mr. Crowe.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

By patriotic I mean music like America or--

Mr. Crowe.

No, no; it is a jazz combo. They wouldn't play--

Mr. Hubert.

When did you first hear of the shooting of the President and where were you?

Mr. Crowe.

I was in the Palomino Hotel and I first heard of it about 4 or so, 4:30.

Mr. Hubert.

How do you fix the time?

Mr. Crowe.

That is when I wroke up.

Mr. Hubert.

How did you hear it, did someone tell you?

Mr. Crowe.

On transistor radio.

Mr. Hubert.

No one had called you?

Mr. Crowe.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

What did you do after hearing it?

Mr. Crowe.

I did what other people did, I guess.

Mr. Hubert.

And that is what?

Mr. Crowe.

Cried.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you speak to anyone?

Mr. Crowe.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you see anyone? Put it this way, who was .the first person you saw or spoke to after that?

Mr. Crowe.

Well, let's see. I woke up, turned on the radio, heard the news. After composure, I ,think I went down to the shopping center, had a bite to eat, came back, and got dressed to go down to the club and then didn't feel 1ike working, I didn't think I should, but nobody had called me not to, and I got down there, and there was a sign on it, out front, you know, says "closed."

Mr. Hubert.

What time was that?

Mr. Crowe.

Oh, about 9, I guess.

Mr. Hubert.

No one from the club had called you at all?

Mr. Crowe.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you know Andy Armstrong?

Mr. Crowe.

Yes; Andrew Armstrong. Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

He did not call you?

Mr. Crowe.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Ruby did not?