(Testimony of Curtis Laverne Crafard Resumed)
Mr. Griffin.
Do you remember how Jack came to give these instructions to Andy?
Mr. Crafard.
No; I don't.
Mr. Griffin.
How soon after Andy began to call the personnel do you remember Jack calling the newspapers and changing the ad?
Mr. Crafard.
I believe it was just shortly after Andy started calling personnel and Jack went in and used the pay phone and said something about calling the paper.
Mr. Griffin.
You recall if up to that time Jack had received a telephone call from any newspaper person asking him if his clubs were going to be open?
Mr. Crafard.
No; I don't.
Mr. Griffin.
Are there any other additions or changes or corrections that you would make in this interview report in your testimony as a result of having read the interview report?
Mr. Crafard.
I believe yesterday I was talking about the financial setup of the club. I believe I said it was fairly good. I would say that this portion of my statement here referring to the financial setup was gained from the fact that Jack was always complaining about going broke, and a portion in my testimony the other day about the financial position of the club was my own opinion.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, you are referring to page 150 of the interview report?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
And as I understand what you are saying in here was that when you told the FBI that the club couldn't financially stand to be closed, you were making that statement on the basis of what Jack had said?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
But your own personal opinion was?
Mr. Crafard.
That the club was making enough money to hold its own, even on a closure of 2 or 3 or maybe 4 days.
Mr. Griffin.
Would you want to make a change on page 150 so that--well, maybe we shouldn't make this change. There is no question in your mind but that the FBI interview states, is an accurate reporting of what you said at that time?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes; there is no question.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, passing on to page 151, is there anything there that you would change?
Mr. Crafard.
The fact here that Ruby said he was going to his sister at that time. I don't believe he at that time mentioned where he was going. When he returned later in the evening he mentioned where he was going.
Mr. Griffin.
You are referring to the language at the top of page 151 which says, "Ruby said that he was going to his sister's home and asked Crafard if he desired to accompany him, which offer was refused"?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes; I believe there was a time element setup there where they haven't included in this testimony here of the fact that the early portion of this was about the financial setup, about calling the paper was at one time, and when he said something about going to his sister was later in the afternoon.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. Griffin.
Continuing on page 151, are there any other additions or corrections or changes you would make?
Mr. Crafard.
The second paragraph on page 151, the second complete paragraph where it starts, "Ruby then came back to the club or called Crafard about 7:30 p.m., that evening." I would like to strike out or called about 7:30 p.m., in the evening. The fact he had come back to the club is something I have established yesterday.
Mr. Griffin.
All right. But you did at that time you talked to the FBI, you weren't sure whether he came back or called?
Mr. Crafard.
That is right.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, how about the time 7:30 p.m., as you think back about that now?
Mr. Crafard.
At the time----
Mr. Griffin.
Is that an accurate time?
Mr. Crafard.
I don't believe so. I believe it was a supposed time, time.
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