Mr. Hubert.

Is there a possibility of marking the tape in some way without injuring it?

Mr. Phillips.

There would be.

Mr. Hubert.

So that there would be a permanent mark as to where the paper tabs were?

Mr. Phillips.

Right.

Mr. Hubert.

Could you do that by making some sort of significant mark with your initials?

Mr. Phillips.

Right.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. We will ask you to do that also.

Mr. Phillips.

All right.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, Larry, did you recognize anyone of the voices in that excerpt that we played?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

You have never heard them at all?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

And you are certain that it is not the voice of the man who called Ruby that you referred to yesterday?

Mr. Crafard.

How is that now?

Mr. Hubert.

Yesterday I understand that you referred to the fact that a man had called Ruby by telephone on a sufficient number of occasions so that you believe that you could recognize his voice if you heard it again.

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, I will ask you if any of the voices that you heard in this excerpt just run off on the machine is the voice of the man you were talking about?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Larry, having had a chance to listen to a number of voices on the tape recording is there anything you can tell us about the voice of the man who called you without leaving his name that Mr. Hubert has been referring to. Did he have an accent?

Mr. Crafard.

No; he didn't have an accent.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he speak with any characteristic Texan or southern speech patterns?

Mr. Crafard.

No; his voice sounded more like a person from the East would talk. His words were very pronounced and very definite.

Mr. Griffin.

There is one photograph that I neglected to show you yesterday which I want to show you now and ask you to identify.
I am going to mark this Washington, D.C., April 10, 1964, C. L. Crafard, Exhibit 5222.
(Photograph marked Crafard Exhibit No. 5222 for identification.)

Mr. Griffin.

Would you look at that photograph and tell me if that is a photograph of anyone you have ever seen before?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe I have saw the gentleman before at the club but I don't believe I was ever introduced to him.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall in what connection you saw him in the Carousel Club?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe he was a guest of Mr. Ruby's.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall when you may have seen him there?

Mr. Crafard.

No; I don't.

Mr. Griffin.

I am going to hand you what I have marked as Exhibit 5223 which is a photograph of a piece of paper and it bears the name T. E. Smith, and there is some other writing under it. Do you recognize that name on that sheet of paper?

Mr. Crafard.

No; I don't.

Mr. Griffin.

This exhibit is marked Washington, D.C., April 10, 1964, C. L. Crafard Exhibit 5223 and it bears on the back the numeral one.
(Photographs marked Crafard Exhibits Nos. 5223 and 5224--A for identification.)

Mr. Griffin.

I am going to hand you what I have marked as Washington, D.C., April 10, 1964, C. L. Crafard Exhibit No. 5224--A and I will ask you if you will tell us what those are a picture of.