Mr. Specter.

Did he say anything more about Oswald at that time?

Mr. Olsen.

He cursed him.

Mr. Specter.

What specific language did he use?

Mr. Olsen.

S.o.b.

Mr. Specter.

Was there any other specific curse that you recollect Ruby used in describing Oswald?

Mr. Olsen.

He could have said something else, but I remember that. I'm sure that he did say something else, but I don't remember what it was.

Mr. Specter.

Did he say anything at that time about whether or not he knew Oswald?

Mr. Olsen.

No, sir.

Mr. Specter.

Did he say anything at that time about whether or not he knew Officer J. D. Tippit?

Mr. Olsen.

It seemed that he did know Officer Tippit.

Mr. Specter.

Why do you say, "It seemed that he did know Officer Tippit?

Mr. Olsen.

I believe he said that Tippit had been to his club.

Mr. Specter.

Recollect as specifically as you can exactly what he said about that, if you can, Mr. Olsen.

Mr. Olsen.

Something about Oswald shooting the President and Officer Tippit and leaving the wife and children, and he kept referring to Jaequeline.

Mr. Specter.

Well, how about what you were referring to concerning Ruby's knowing Officer Tippit? What exactly did Ruby say at that time, to the best of your ability to recollect, about any relationship or acquaintanceship between Jack Ruby and J. D. Tippit?

Mr. Olsen.

Well, I just don't remember if there was anything specifically said about that.

Mr. Specter.

What did you say to Ruby during that conversation?

Mr. Olsen.

I said it was a tragedy that this happened.

Mr. Specter.

What did Johnny say to Ruby at that time?

Mr. Olsen.

And he said, yes; it sure was.

Mr. Specter.

Did Johnny say anything else?

Mr. Olsen.

Well, we all talked; I don't remember what exactly was said.

Mr. Specter.

Do you remember anything specifically that Kay said at that time?

Mr. Olsen.

No. It was a shame that it had happened.

Mr. Specter.

Do you recall whether or not Kay said something to the effect that "In England they would have Oswald by his toes and drag him through the street"?

Mr. Olsen.

No, sir; I don't.

Mr. Specter.

Had Kay talked to Ruby earlier on that Friday?

Mr. Olsen.

I believe that she did.

Mr. Specter.

Was that in person or by telephone?

Mr. Olsen.

I believe it was by phone.

Mr. Specter.

Where was she when she talked to him by phone, if you know?

Mr. Olsen.

At her house.

Mr. Specter.

And where was Ruby, if you know?

Mr. Olsen.

I think he was at his house.

Mr. Specter.

At what time did that telephone conversation occur?

Mr. Olsen.

I believe it was in the afternoon sometime.

Mr. Specter.

What was the purpose of that call, if you know?

Mr. Olsen.

To find out if she had heard about the President's assassination----

Mr. Specter.

Was there anything else said by either Kay or Ruby at that time when they had telephone conversation?

Mr. Olsen.

I wasn't--I don't believe I was there when she talked to him----

Mr. Specter.

How do you know about the call then?

Mr. Olsen.

She said that she had talked to him.

Mr. Specter.

Do you know whether or not they discussed whether or not the Carousel Club would be open that night?

Mr. Olsen.

I believe they did.

Mr. Specter.

And do you know what Ruby said about that subject matter?

Mr. Olsen.

He said that it would not be open.