Mr. Wall.

No, sir. Jack Ruby and Jim Dolen took the show over and made our kids perform the show.

Mr. Specter.

Was the same troupe then performing the show except for you and Mr. Peterson?

Mr. Wall.

The only one we have now with us that did the show with us over at the Adolphus that particular night is Bill Fanning who is in our show.

Mr. Specter.

After that 8-week connection with Mr. Ruby what later association, if any, did you have with him?

Mr. Wall.

Well, I didn't speak to Jack for about, I would say, around 6 months but he and Mr. Peterson became good friends again because they have the type personalities that flare up and forget; and I don't--I have a mind like an elephant--and they started speaking so, therefore, I started speaking going back to the club which he changed into a stripper club called the Carousel.

Mr. Specter.

Did you ever work for Mr. Ruby again?

Mr. Wall.

No, sir.

Mr. Specter.

Then from that time on you knew him as a friend and acquaintance in the Dallas area?

Mr. Wall.

Right.

Mr. Specter.

What was your occupation from the time you left Mr. Ruby's until you left Dallas in January of 1964?

Mr. Wall.

We reopened the Playbill Club for about 4 months and then we went back to the--I'm sorry--then we went to the Maple Theater, did a show for about 6 weeks called Mr. Wonderful, then back to the Adolphus Hotel where we stayed.

Mr. Specter.

What did you do at the Adolphus Hotel?

Mr. Wall.

Bottoms Up. Performed it in the Century Room.

Mr. Specter.

How frequently did you see Mr. Ruby during the years of 1961, 1962, 1963?

Mr. Wall.

Well, after we lost the Playbill again for a second time and we closed the show at the Maple Theater, then we were right across the street from where Jack had his club and Jack got a haircut at the barbershop in the hotel, ate in the hotel restaurant, consequently I think that is when he started--he and Joe started being friends and I started seeing him a lot and became good friends; then when we started at the Adolphus in 1962, maybe the latter part of 1961, we started speaking and being good friends. We would go over there sometimes three or four times a week just to see the show and the girls over there which we were good friends with.

Mr. Specter.

To your knowledge, did Jack Ruby ever associate with any of the criminal element?

Mr. Wall.

He always reminded me of a gangster but I have never seen him with anyone.

Mr. Specter.

Why did he always remind you of a gangster?

Mr. Wall.

Just the way he talks, you know, he just reminds me of a real hood. Still I have never seen him with anyone that you would call a criminal in Dallas.

Mr. Specter.

Aside from his appearance and the way he talks do you have any factual reason for saying that he appears to be a hood or gangster?

Mr. Wall.

No, Sir.

Mr. Specter.

To your knowledge was Jack Ruby ever a member of any subversive organization or any group which advocates the forceful overthrow of the United States Government?

Mr. Wall.

No.

Mr. Specter.

Were any members of his family or friends ever members of any subversive organization?

Mr. Wall.

I only met one relative of his which was his sister, Eva, or Ava, however you would say it. I just met her casually.

Mr. Specter.

What is her last name?

Mr. Wall.

I really don't know.

Mr. Specter.

Grant?

Mr. Wall.

Grant. That is right. She ran his club on--what street is it? I have to think of the club for a minute. It is right next door to the B&B.

Mr. Specter.

The Vegas Club?