Mr. Crafard.

Several times I would flip over in the book to the next empty page, put down an entry, and later I'd take the first few pages that I had left out, left where I could and there would be a number Jack would want to keep and I'd write the number down. These numbers on the first couple of pages here, I think the first page is all numbers that I got the first day and then the others is numbers I added to it later.

Mr. Hubert.

Then are we to understand that there is no possibility of determining the sequence of events recorded in that book by referring to the order in which they appear in the book?

Mr. Crafard.

That is right.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, an entry on one of the later pages might have been made prior to the one on the earlier page?

Mr. Crafard.

That is right.

Mr. Griffin.

When you testified, Larry, that you would sometimes flip the book over and make entries on the back of the pages, and as you have just done in front of us, you have turned the book over on its face to the back of the book. Do I understand your testimony to mean, then, that you worked, for some of your notations you worked backward?

Mr. Crafard.

That is right.

Mr. Griffin.

From the back of the book?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

But am I correct in understanding that the pages in the front of the book which have writing on the back side of the numbered page were not entries that were made in this fashion that we have just been describing but followed in the ordinary sequence that you would have made in working from the front of the book?

Mr. Crafard.

That is right. The first two pages in the book, as I stated before, are numbers that he wanted to keep. I would fill the front of the page and then turn the page over and fill the reverse side of that same page.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, as you go through there, would you leaf through those pages from one on, and tell us what the first page is that you recognize that wasn't made by working from the front of the book and filling in sequence the back of the page after you had filled the front?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe it would be page No. 4.

Mr. Griffin.

And the back of page 4 has entries on it which might have been made because you were working from the back of the book forward?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, I believe so. I believe that is where I made those.

Mr. Griffin.

You also explained to Mr. Hubert that you would transfer some of the entries from that book into another notebook.

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Would you describe the other notebook for us?

Mr. Crafard.

It was a Penway notebook, but it was a larger notebook. It was a memo pad, I believe is what it was. Was wide enough that it had a dividing line down the middle of the page, a red dividing line down the middle of the page.

Mr. Griffin.

Who purchased that notebook?

Mr. Crafard.

I did.

Mr. Griffin.

And how long after you purchased this small Exhibit 5202 did you purchase the notebook that you have just been describing?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe it was about 3 or 4 days later.

Mr. Griffin.

Where was that book kept physically?

Mr. Crafard.

Mostly on Jack's desk.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you leave that notebook at the Carousel when you left?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Were there any entries that were made in that notebook which were entered directly into that notebook without being placed in some other notebook first?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe there were a few in the last couple or few pages in the notebook.

Mr. Griffin.

The entries that were in this larger Penway notebook which you