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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XIV - Page 597« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Bell P. Herndon)

Mr. Herndon.
Yes; No. 4 was: "Have members of your family been physically harmed because of what you did?" Mr. Ruby did reply "No," and then said: "May I interrupt?" He was instructed by me to just sit perfectly still and we will discuss the questions later. There was a deviation in his physiological tracings with regard to this question. However, these must be interpreted to the fact that he actually spoke a sentence in response to the question.
Question No. 5 was: "Do you think members of your family are now in danger because of what you did?" Mr. Ruby failed to make any reply or response to this particular question. It is noted that there was no significant change in his physiological tracings in any of the components following my asking this question.
Question No. 6 was: "Is Mr. Fowler in danger because he is defending you?" Here again Mr. Ruby failed to make any verbal reply to the question. Looking at the polygrams produced, it is noted that there is no significant physiological response with regard to this question. The examiner made a notation on his chart that it appeared that Mr. Ruby was visibly pondering the answer to these questions. However, decided not to answer them as instructed either yes or no period.
Question No. 7 is a relevant question: "Did Blackie Harrison speak to you just before you shot Oswald?" Mr. Ruby replied "No" and there is a slight increase in his relative blood pressure. However, this is not considered significant inasmuch as it is at the end of the series, and it is not unusual for slight increase in blood pressure to be portrayed as the series prolongs into the later It is not considered significant.
The total chart minutes on this particular series was 2 minutes 25 seconds.
In discussion of the two questions in which Mr. Ruby failed to reply, I made notations on the chart that he felt the questions were difficult to answer yes or no, and that he didn't know how to answer them.
Mr. Specter.
By those questions do you mean the ones----
Mr. Herndon.
I am referring to question 5 and 6 in which he did not specifically reply verbally.
Mr. Specter.
That is "Do you think members of your family are now in danger because of what you did?"
Mr. Herndon.
That is correct.
Mr. Specter.
And "Is Mr. Fowler in danger because he is defending you?"
Mr. Herndon.
That is correct.
Mr. Specter.
Did Mr. Ruby answer those in a preliminary session?
Mr. Herndon.
During the preliminary session he did answer those questions.
Mr. Specter.
What answer to each question did he give?
Mr. Herndon.
To the question "Do you think members of your family are now in danger because of what you did?" he replied "Yes."
In regard to the question "Is Mr. Fowler in danger because he is defending you?" Mr. Ruby replied "Yes."
Mr. Specter.
Have you now given all the significant findings on series No. 10?
Mr. Herndon.
Yes; I have.
Mr. Specter.
I will now move to series No. 11 which we will mark for this record as Herndon Deposition Exhibit No. 12.
(Herndon Deposition Exhibit No. 12 was marked for identification.)
Mr. Specter.
Will you start on series No. 11, giving the relevant questions, answers and any physiological deviation?
Mr. Herndon.
These questions on Series 11 were primarily asked after a conversation between Mr. Ruby and Mr. Specter at which time Mr. Ruby indicated he wanted some additional questions asked of him.
It was finally agreed upon that we would ask the three following questions. No. I Just to establish identity "Are you Jack Ruby?" in which he replied “Yes.”
Question No. 2: "Do you consider yourself to be a 100-percent American Mr. Ruby responded "Yes."
And question No. 3 "Is all of the testimony given by you today the complete truth?" Mr. Ruby replied "Yes."
This particular series began at 8:57 p.m., and a review of the physiological
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