Mr. Herndon.

used the name of Jack Rubenstein and that he had legally changed it at a later date. Other than some variations in the pneumograph which were caused by his hesitating to answer due to the length of the questions provided, there is no other significant physiological change noticed in series 2.

Mr. Specter.

And what were the relevant questions in series 2?

Mr. Herndon.

The relevant questions in series 2 were No. 3 "Are you now a member of the Communist Party?" in which there was no significant physiological change.

Mr. Specter.

What was his response there?

Mr. Herndon.

He responded "No," to that question.
On question No. 5, which is considered relevant, he was asked, "Have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?" He responded "No," and there is no significant response recorded. There is an adjustment on my behalf of the cardiogram tracing.

Mr. Specter.

What do you mean by that, Mr. Herndon?

Mr. Herndon.

Where this arrow is placed, and I brought down the tracing to a lower level so that I could see if there would be any subsequent rise.

Mr. Specter.

And was it a consistent tracing thereafter indicating no deviation?

Mr. Herndon.

Yes. The cardiogram is interpreted as being consistent, and no significant change or deviation.

Mr. Specter.

Now, what other relevant questions were asked in that series?

Mr. Herndon.

Question 7, "Are you now a member of any group that advocates the violent overthrow of the U.S. Government?" There is no significant change in his relative blood pressure, and the only change significant in his breathing pattern which by chart interpretation was caused by him hesitating to answer the question due to its length.

Mr. Specter.

What was his response to that question?

Mr. Herndon.

He responded "No" to question No. 7.

Mr. Specter.

Were there any other relevant questions in that group?

Mr. Herndon.

Question No. 8 was relevant. It was, "Have you ever been a member of any group that advocates the violent overthrow of the U.S. Government?" Here, again, he responded "No." There was no significant change.

Mr. Specter.

Will you start that again?

Mr. Herndon.

Question No. 8 was "Have you ever been a member of any group that advocates the violent overthrow of the U.S. Government?"
This is a relatively long question for polygraph technique, and I note that there was some hesitation in the pneumograph tracing, in view of the fact he had to wait for the question to be completed before he could respond. He eventually did respond "No" and there was no significant change in his physiological tracings. The total chart minutes, that is the time that he was actually on the polygraph from the beginning to the end of this particular series, was 2 minutes 30 seconds.

Mr. Specter.

Were there any other relevant questions in that group?

Mr. Herndon.

There were no other relevant questions in that group.

Mr. Specter.

Were there any other significant findings in that portion of the test on series No. 2?

Mr. Herndon.

There was a control question "did you ever make a false official statement" to which he responded "No." There was a very minor change in the cardiograph tracing as portrayed by a slight decrease in the relative blood pressure. However, it is not considered significant enough to make any additional statements.

Mr. Specter.

Now you have given us all the relevant findings for series No. 2; is that correct, Mr. Herndon?

Mr. Herndon.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Specter.

Let. us now proceed to the next series and mark the next series as Herndon Deposition Exhibit No. 3.
(Herndon Deposition Exhibit No. 3 was marked for identification.)

Mr. Specter.

Would you start off on the third series, Mr. Herndon, by telling what were the relevant questions and the responses thereto, if any?

Mr. Herndon.

During series 3, there were three relevant questions asked.