Mr. Herndon.

Will you look straight ahead during the actual asking of the questions.
For the record, this is series No. 10.
(Reporter's note: 8:26 p.m.)

Mr. Herndon.

I notice during the time---all the time I ask you questions, Mr. Ruby, that you close your eyes. If that's a way that you can concentrate, that's perfectly all right.

Mr. Ruby.

That's why--if I were guilty of something or if I were trying to evade something, certainly closing your eyes would be less advantageous for you to cover up something. Do you follow me? In other u-orals, closing your eyes means that I do want to tell the truth.

Mr. Herndon.

That's what I want you to do---just concentrate on the question alone and you have to make that decision whether you will answer it "Yes" or "No".

Mr. Ruby.

In other words, if I was trying to cover up anything, I wouldn't try to get more of a vision of what you're trying to refer me to.

Mr. Herndon.

All right, if you will look straight ahead now, and sit perfectly still, we will begin, and I will let you know when we're going to ask the first question.

Mr. Ruby.

In other words, I'm trying to be more emphatic with the truth when I close my eyes--more than the truth.

Mr. Herndon.

Would you put your complete left hand on that arm rest--that's it.
(Reporter's note: 8:27 p.m.)

Mr. Herndon.

The test will now begin. "Is your name Jack Ruby?"

Mr. Ruby.

"Yes."

Mr. Herndon.

"Were you at the Parkland Hospital at any time on Friday?"

Mr. Ruby.

"No."

Mr. Herndon.

"Did you say anything when you shot Oswald other than what you've testified about?"

Mr. Ruby.

"No."

Mr. Herndon.

"Have members of your family been physically harmed because of what you did?"

Mr. Ruby.

"No." May I interrupt?

Mr. Herndon.

Just sit perfectly still. We will discuss the questions later, Mr. Ruby.
"Do you think members of your family are now in danger because of what you did?"

Mr. Ruby.

Mr. Herndon.

"Is Mr. Fowler in danger because he is defending you?"

Mr. Ruby.

Mr. Herndon.

"Did 'Blackie' Hanson speak to you just before you shot Oswald?"

Mr. Ruby.

"No."

Mr. Herndon.

That will conclude that series, and just sit still a moment, Mr. Ruby, and I will let the pressure out. Now, as soon as I shut this off, we will discuss these questions.
(Reporter's note: 8:30 p.m.)

Mr. Herndon.

On that series of questions, Mr. Ruby, you failed to respond or answer one or two of these questions, which I'll give you an opportunity now to make any comment you wish to make about them.
Question No. 5, I asked, "Do you think members of your family are now in danger because of what you did?"

Mr. Ruby.

Well, they're always exposed to it, so I don't know how to answer that.

Mr. Herndon.

In other words, you felt it would be difficult for you to say either "Yes" or "No"; is that correct?

Mr. Ruby.

That's right; the same way with Fowler. I know when he's representing me, he's putting himself on the spot.

Mr. Wood.

Neither the court reporter nor I got the last name of "Blackie"--exactly.